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[boardski]

Storm King and Celebrity Ridge are both Doppelmayrs and many of the upgrades on the existing lifts such as the new chairs and other moving parts on R and S are Doppelmayr and it looks like A has a new drive that is Doppelmayr for this season. My guess would be Doppelmayr also. This will be a nice addition, the first lift-served terrain expansion in quite awhile. The other option is it could be the transplanted K-Lift if they are considering upgrading K to HSQ but the article does not mention that part of it. Maybe someone closely connected with Copper can fill us in on the details???

[SkiDaBird]

I wouldn't factor out SkyTrac, they fared pretty well last year.
I'm just going to wait for our Copper people to fill us in...

[boardski]

I was thinking a reinstalled Motherlode from PCMR might be an option also if it was part of the purchase agreement. "Free used Yan lift with the sale of one of your largest resorts"- act now while supplies last. :-) The length of Motherlode would be more similar to what is needed on TM. K-Lift would probably be too short unless it was supplemented with additional equipment. A Skytrac lift would look pretty good running up Tucker Mountain. I'm sure I can get used to the odd looking chairs and it is not a lift beginners will be riding anyway since one will need to ski a black run to get to it. Misloads should be fairly minimal.

This post has been edited by boardski: 15 January 2015 - 06:27 AM

[DonaldMReif]

boardski, on 15 January 2015 - 06:23 AM, said:

I was thinking a reinstalled Motherlode from PCMR might be an option also if it was part of the purchase agreement. "Free used Yan lift with the sale of one of your largest resorts"- act now while supplies last. :-) The length of Motherlode would be more similar to what is needed on TM. K-Lift would probably be too short unless it was supplemented with additional equipment. A Skytrac lift would look pretty good running up Tucker Mountain. I'm sure I can get used to the odd looking chairs and it is not a lift beginners will be riding anyway since one will need to ski a black run to get to it. Misloads should be fairly minimal.

Plus it takes at minimum two to four chairlifts to get from a base area to where the Tucker Mountain lift will begin depending on where you start from: American Flyer and Rendezvous if coming from Center Village; Union Creek, Timberline Express and Rendezvous if coming from West Village; Super Bee, American Flyer and Rendezvous if coming from East Village.

[skier691]

I speculate there is a spectulator speculating.

[Backbowlsbilly]

So I asked about Tucker Mountain and they announced they were putting up a lift, maybe I should ask about a 3S between Vail and Beaver Creek this time.

Back on topic, both Avanti and Tucker could LP or Dopp so we honestly just don't know yet. The only thing about Tucker would be wind when you get above treeline on the peak itself, so that might be a factor in what they chose for the lift. Anyways, this will be a great expansion for Copper and I'm looking forward to doing the new cat ski terrain on Jacques too whenever that opens although probably not this year, I recommend doing the Tucker cat now before it closes just to have the experience before the lift is built. Construction could start at the end of the ski season too, similar to what Winter Park did with Panoramic since both lifts are high alpine and don't need a lift to be removed to be built but that's just guessing.

[DonaldMReif]

They'll probably announce who's building the Avanti Express, possibly around the same time construction for that lift actually starts.

Looking at the area where the Tucker Mountain lift will go, it looks like it will have around 1,400 feet of vertical and be around 3,350 feet long (Google Earth estimates). Given your remarks about high winds, it will be interesting to wonder if Tucker will be a double chairlift or a triple chairlift, or something else entirely.

[boardski]

...Or maybe a fixed grip quad with the capacity of a double chair (chairs spaced further apart similar to lift #9 at Loveland).

[vons]

The plan is to have the Tucker cat service move to the bowl behind tucker providing egress out. The lift was originally planned to be a triple.

[boardski]

Triple chair sounds good! If the bowl behind TM is the one I am thinking, they could almost run one of those "Co-bus 3000"s back and forth over Fremont pass and drop people off at the bottom of Alpine lift also. I'm not sure how the passenger safety regulations would work since those busses are designed mostly for standing passengers. (They are the busses that shuttle skiers from the parking lots to the lifts for those not familiar with Copper). Hopefully I will still be able to afford a pass at Copper. I will start saving now.

This post has been edited by boardski: 17 January 2015 - 10:18 AM

[vons]

boardski, on 17 January 2015 - 10:17 AM, said:

Triple chair sounds good! If the bowl behind TM is the one I am thinking, they could almost run one of those "Co-bus 3000"s back and forth over Fremont pass and drop people off at the bottom of Alpine lift also. I'm not sure how the passenger safety regulations would work since those busses are designed mostly for standing passengers. (They are the busses that shuttle skiers from the parking lots to the lifts for those not familiar with Copper). Hopefully I will still be able to afford a pass at Copper. I will start saving now.

The Co-bus 3000's are street legal the home made trailer buses pulled by the ford tractors (Transpo calls them Sharks) are not and can only travel on the dedicated bus road.

[jaytrem]

Here's one WAY under the radar....

http://www.plumasnew...e-news&Itemid=6

I have no clue when it will be done. Anybody know where they got the lift from? Also of note, Johnsville Ski Hill = Eureka Ski Bowl = Plumas-Eureka Ski Bowl = Ski Gold Mountain.

[DonaldMReif]

It definitely looks like it might be a recycled Lift Engineering triple.

[vons]

The lift is the old Mainline double from Squaw, the name is still on the terminal steel in the article photo, so yes it is a LE

This post has been edited by vons: 17 January 2015 - 09:19 PM

[jaytrem]

vons, on 17 January 2015 - 09:18 PM, said:

The lift is the old Mainline double from Squaw, the name is still on the terminal steel in the article photo, so yes it is a LE

Hmmmm, I guess I should have noticed that. Thanks.

[RibStaThiok]

Nice to see an early to mid-70s vintage LE be reused again instead of scrapped.

[vons]

The 70's LE are well built and make good rebuilds, from reading around various links from the article it seems like there are a number of old lifts from squaw in storage.

This post has been edited by vons: 19 January 2015 - 01:57 PM

[Peter]

jaytrem, on 17 January 2015 - 07:11 PM, said:

Here's one WAY under the radar....

http://www.plumasnew...e-news&Itemid=6

I have no clue when it will be done. Anybody know where they got the lift from? Also of note, Johnsville Ski Hill = Eureka Ski Bowl = Plumas-Eureka Ski Bowl = Ski Gold Mountain.

We did discuss this one in the 2014 thread. (http://www.skilifts....ndpost&p=106036)
The bottom terminal has been up for a couple years so who knows when it will actually be finished.

[liftmech]

Tucker is *not* confirmed, nor have we put it out for bid. We were pretty surprised to see the article claiming we were going to build a lift-- figure we'd already know if it was in the paper, right? Not sure how they thought it was a go when nothing's been decided yet.

[liftmech]

DonaldMReif, on 14 January 2015 - 07:16 PM, said:

Copper is definitely not a brand-loyal area. After all, they had Poma build the Center Village high speed quads in the 1980s, but the next high speed quad, the Timberline Express from 1994, was a Doppelmayr. Then they returned to Poma for Excelerator and Super Bee, then back to Doppelmayr for Union Creek, and I think back again to Leitner-Poma for Storm King.

Both Stormy and C-Ridge are Doppelmayrs.