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[Kelly]

A couple of thoughts…
Compared to other SV lifts this also serves as a link to the housing at the other end of the valley.
Also serves as a link to the distant chair near that housing.
This area is last to close when it gets windy
The detachable’s lower loading and unloading speed helps reduce stops.
They would lower the line speed (related to capacity) because it’s a relatively short ride.
They have a heavy investment in snowmaking for early season skiing on this North facing slope.
Key parts of the lift would be used for a replacement lift in another location.

[JSteigs]

I believe that there is some thought of matching the development of the expansion of the resort. There will be condos built east of Red Dog, making much more of a ski in ski out lodging.

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[Aussierob]

Harmony is going to get a DCS800 drive to replace the old PAD that is in there. The company opted not to spend money on ugrading the PLC's so I hope the old stuff continues working well. We have upgraded the screens so not all is original. The new lift will make a huge difference for excelerator as all the traffic in the Crystal zone and Blackcomb glacier can now avoid the excelerator line up. It will also give us way more capacity on bad weather days when we can run Crystal, but not anything higher on the mountain. The new sixpack for harmony will be a Doppelmayr. It will also have an AC drive, so we are finally seeing the beginning of the end of the DC era.

[DonaldMReif]

Aussierob, on 03 February 2013 - 10:51 AM, said:

Harmony is going to get a DCS800 drive to replace the old PAD that is in there. The company opted not to spend money on ugrading the PLC's so I hope the old stuff continues working well. We have upgraded the screens so not all is original. The new lift will make a huge difference for excelerator as all the traffic in the Crystal zone and Blackcomb glacier can now avoid the excelerator line up. It will also give us way more capacity on bad weather days when we can run Crystal, but not anything higher on the mountain. The new sixpack for harmony will be a Doppelmayr. It will also have an AC drive, so we are finally seeing the beginning of the end of the DC era.

And with relocation, Blackcomb will no longer be an all-Doppelmayr mountain.

[skierdude9450]

I'm pretty excited for this much needed improvement on Blackcomb. The runout from Blackcomb Glacier is long enough just to there and then it's another 1.5 km to Excellerator which always has the worst lines on the mountain. And now not to mention you'll be able to lap CBC trees with one lift, kind of exciting.

[liftmech]

DonaldMReif, on 03 February 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

And with relocation, Blackcomb will no longer be an all-Doppelmayr mountain.

Never was. There are still a couple of Yans there.

Which PLCs do you have in there, Rob?

[DetroitSkier]

Blue Mountain, ON will be adding a HSS in the "Orchard" area expansion (far left when looking at the slopes from the base), which appears to have been in the works for quite some time when looking at past trail maps.

http://www.bluemount...ampaign=orchard

That's one wide ski area for the Midwest. Beautiful views of Georgian Bay, nice long Midwest runs, lots of HS lifts, and a nice faux-Alpine village with great places to stay (if you like that sort of thing).

Anybody have any insight on the added terrain variety? From what I remember, it's probably going to be mostly easier intermediate terrain and a long green run.

[Aussierob]

liftmech, on 07 February 2013 - 06:07 AM, said:

Never was. There are still a couple of Yans there.

Which PLCs do you have in there, Rob?

We have whatever is in there, but in a new development it appears the old PLC's don't meet the current code so we will probably get new ones after all. Or so I'm hoping.

[Peter Pitcher]

Wolf Creek Ski Area (Colorado) is replacing their Treasure triple with a Dopplmayr HSQ. The USFS in their infinite wisdom to save us from ourselves has mandated that the new lift has the same theorectical capacity as the 30 year old CTEC triple. The CTEC will be relocated in teh future.

[jaytrem]

Peter Pitcher, on 19 February 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

The USFS in their infinite wisdom to save us from ourselves has mandated that the new lift has the same theorectical capacity as the 30 year old CTEC triple.

At least it's theoretical and they're not maiking them subtract for misloads. :-)

[vons]

So is the new lift going to be designed to be upgraded (more chairs added) for a time when the the forest service grows some sense?

[boardski]

Interesting...That is different from the master plan. Their master plan has Bonanza chair getting a replacement. I think the Treasure lift is the better lift to upgrade. That is ridiuclous how much the USFS micro-manages stuff like that (the capacity of old Treasure vs new Treasure). Oh well... at least the USFS let them install a replacement for the old lift.

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[DonaldMReif]

boardski, on 19 February 2013 - 08:14 PM, said:

Interesting...That is different from the master plan. Their master plan has Bonanza chair getting a replacement. I think the Treasure lift is the better lift to upgrade. That is ridiuclous how much the USFS micro-manages stuff like that (the capacity of old Treasure vs new Treasure). Oh well... at least the USFS let them install a replacement for the old lift.

Treasure is also older than Bonanza by six years, so I have to wonder if maybe age had something to do with their decision.

[SuperRat]

Pats Peak in Henniker NH has announced expansion plans for 2013 including a fixed grip triple, make and origin unknown but I believe they have the machine already. William b may know more.

http://www.patspeak....scadebasin.html

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[william b]

SuperRat, on 25 February 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

Pats Peak in Henniker NH has announced expansion plans for 2013 including a fixed grip triple, make and origin unknown but I believe they have the machine already. William b may know more.

http://www.patspeak....scadebasin.html

William b does know more.

Perhaps madtexan can confirm, as I don't want to spread misinformation, but it is a Von Roll triple, 1986, I believe. They will be installing a new 150 HP AC drive. Tower machinery and chairs have been stripped and hot dipped... will be all new wear parts and rubber. This lift came from Osler Bluff in Ontario.
The plans are to incorporate a loading conveyor vault into the bottom drive/load terminal... I do not know if the conveyor is part of the plan right now, or if it will be done sometime in the future.
Osler Bluff's other triple chair was removed in the spring of 1998 (I believe), and also came to New Hampshire. It is the Hall/Borvig in the Barnyard learning area at Ragged Mt.

wbl

[Jonni]

Update on the Waterville Valley Green Peak Expansion: http://www.wmur.com/...if/-/index.html

Definitely looks hopeful for this year. So far we're doing pretty well here in NH for some decent sized expansion projects.

[vons]

Woodward at Copper is promoting new lift served terrain park next summer anyone know if it is a new lift or if they are just moving up to E.

[Aussierob]

To absolutely no ones surprise the Crystal chair replacemant is going to be called Crystal Ridge Express. Not sure why they needed a naming competition.

[vons]

I see now that Copper is just building a small glacier next to pitchfork

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[trooper1556]

Aussierob, on 28 February 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

To absolutely no ones surprise the Crystal chair replacemant is going to be called Crystal Ridge Express. Not sure why they needed a naming competition.

Still haven't heard on if/when an old lift ran this exact line that has been cut for years??