According to UnnofficialSquaw.com, the owners of Squaw Valley have completed a purchase of Alpine Meadows. These two resorts are right next to each other, so they may be connected in the future. Stay tuned.
http://unofficialnet...s-alpine-44221/
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Posted 27 September 2011 - 07:03 AM
Skier, on 26 September 2011 - 07:29 PM, said:
According to UnnofficialSquaw.com, the owners of Squaw Valley have completed a purchase of Alpine Meadows. These two resorts are right next to each other, so they may be connected in the future. Stay tuned.
http://unofficialnet...s-alpine-44221/
Great news for pass holders.
Been awhile since I lived in Tahoe, but as I remember people were either "Squaw skiers" or "Apline skiers" and didn't cross over much. Interesting to see how this works out...
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Posted 27 September 2011 - 07:06 AM
The official announcement: http://www.skialpine...es/squaw-valley
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 07:33 PM
SQUAW VALLEY AND ALPINE MEADOWS JOIN FORCES
September 27, 2011
SAM Magazine--September 27, 2011--Squaw Valley and Alpine Meadows Ski Resort, Calif., announced today that the two North Lake Tahoe ski resorts have agreed to combine operations under common ownership and offer season passes and lift tickets that will allow guests to enjoy skiing and riding on both mountains. The transaction is expected to close prior to the commencement of the 2011-12 winter season. Andy Wirth, president and CEO of Squaw, will take the helm as the president and CEO of the new combined entity of Squaw Valley and Alpine Meadows.
As part of the transaction, an investment affiliate of JMA Ventures (JMA), will convert its ownership of Alpine Meadows into partial ownership of the combined company. KSL Capital Partners, LLC (KSL), the owner of Squaw Valley, will be the majority owner of the combined company. Both owners have a deep commitment to the two resorts and to the Tahoe region. KSL, as part of its acquisition of Squaw Valley, has earmarked $50 million in capital improvements to Squaw Valley over the next three to five years, many of which will be apparent this winter. The closing of the transaction is subject to US Forest Service and the California Tahoe Conservancy approval. JMA will continue to independently own and operate Homewood Mountain Resort.
All of these passes previously purchased at Squaw or Alpine for winter 2011-12 will become valid for skiing and riding at both mountain resorts.
Link on SAM: http://goo.gl/Em5MW
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Posted 01 October 2011 - 07:58 AM
Skier thanks for the media info on the sale –
Ah yes… the media mentioning the areas could be physically combined is jingolistic journalism at best. SAM (see above) did mention the term both mountains but missed a key point (read below).
Some physical facts about the terrain – a physical fact is something that can not change.
There is a large high basin between the resorts – 5 Lakes Basin…this basin has trapped many past skiers thinking they could just ski down to “the road”…skiing into this feature then to Alpine Meadows is impossible if any new snow exists.
The base of Alpine Meadows ski resort is much higher than Squaw Valley
There are terrain features, such as, cliffs and the lack of broad slopes, below and next to the 5 Lakes Basin that will be obstacles to skiers except in huge snow years.
Due to distance you could never ski from the Alpine Meadows ski resort to Squaw Valley ski resort.
You can ski from Squaw Valley to Alpine Meadows… that would be the residential area - just a quick ½ mile uphill walk on pavement would get you to the ski area lower parking lots…and another quick ½ mile walk to any lifts. Or you could just drive to Alpine Meadows (that would be the ski area) in the same amount of time.
Being missed by the media (until today) and by SAM is a “one chair” private ski area named White Wolf that almost connects Alpine Meadows ski area with Squaw Valley. I say almost because of the extreme terrain…a traverse to this lift from Alpine Meadows ski area would be impossible except in extreme snow years. Also the permit only allows limited capacity due to infrastructure limitations.
Also being missed by the media (and perhaps more to the point) is the aspect of Vail now owing the rights to operate the nearby Northstar ski resort and the huge corporate giant to control ticket pricing from their nearest competitors …Alpine Meadows and Squaw Valley. Alpine losing a share of its skiers to aggressive pricing competition was perhaps a big reason why Alpine was for sale and why Squaw Valley would certainly have said “well either Vail is going to make an offer to purchase Alpine (this would control the market) or we can offset Vails’ impact (on us) and buy Alpine”.
As liftdino mentions this is great news for pass holders.
Here is a map showing key features
SV-and-AM.jpg (99.69K)
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San Francisco Chronicle article about White Wolf the private area: http://blog.sfgate.c...e-slopes/?tsp=1
Ah yes… the media mentioning the areas could be physically combined is jingolistic journalism at best. SAM (see above) did mention the term both mountains but missed a key point (read below).
Some physical facts about the terrain – a physical fact is something that can not change.
There is a large high basin between the resorts – 5 Lakes Basin…this basin has trapped many past skiers thinking they could just ski down to “the road”…skiing into this feature then to Alpine Meadows is impossible if any new snow exists.
The base of Alpine Meadows ski resort is much higher than Squaw Valley
There are terrain features, such as, cliffs and the lack of broad slopes, below and next to the 5 Lakes Basin that will be obstacles to skiers except in huge snow years.
Due to distance you could never ski from the Alpine Meadows ski resort to Squaw Valley ski resort.
You can ski from Squaw Valley to Alpine Meadows… that would be the residential area - just a quick ½ mile uphill walk on pavement would get you to the ski area lower parking lots…and another quick ½ mile walk to any lifts. Or you could just drive to Alpine Meadows (that would be the ski area) in the same amount of time.
Being missed by the media (until today) and by SAM is a “one chair” private ski area named White Wolf that almost connects Alpine Meadows ski area with Squaw Valley. I say almost because of the extreme terrain…a traverse to this lift from Alpine Meadows ski area would be impossible except in extreme snow years. Also the permit only allows limited capacity due to infrastructure limitations.
Also being missed by the media (and perhaps more to the point) is the aspect of Vail now owing the rights to operate the nearby Northstar ski resort and the huge corporate giant to control ticket pricing from their nearest competitors …Alpine Meadows and Squaw Valley. Alpine losing a share of its skiers to aggressive pricing competition was perhaps a big reason why Alpine was for sale and why Squaw Valley would certainly have said “well either Vail is going to make an offer to purchase Alpine (this would control the market) or we can offset Vails’ impact (on us) and buy Alpine”.
As liftdino mentions this is great news for pass holders.
Here is a map showing key features
SV-and-AM.jpg (99.69K)
Number of downloads: 90
San Francisco Chronicle article about White Wolf the private area: http://blog.sfgate.c...e-slopes/?tsp=1
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Posted 01 October 2011 - 02:13 PM
Not sure why there is so much bluster in this last post. He is making this to be a bigger deal than it actually is.
All they need to do is replace KT-22 with one high speed lift with a midstation at the top of KT-22, and an angle station at the bottom of White Wolf and a terminus at the Alpine Meadows lodge. The lift would take skiers in both directions enabling round trip skiing on KT-22, Whitewolf and a quick shot accross the Alpine Meadows parking lot to the lodge. In fact, Alpine could simply have their buses terminate at the angle station to keep them out of the slow going in the parking lot and enable skiers coming from the lake to quickly jet over to the Alpine Meadows lodge or up and over via KT-22. This lift could be a Chondola to service both the KT and White Wolf sections as well as those skiers who are simply trying to transport between the base areas.
Oh yeah and before you freak out about KT not having enough capacity in the event of half the skiers headed over to Alpine on this new lift, that can be solved very easily by moving the existing KT-22 express quad chair over to replace Exhibition and Olympic Lady with one lift thereby splitting KT-22 into two parts while also providing Squaw another major lift on storm days.
Net net lets be a little more positive....This is a great thing for skiers, the Tahoe economy, as well as KSL.
All they need to do is replace KT-22 with one high speed lift with a midstation at the top of KT-22, and an angle station at the bottom of White Wolf and a terminus at the Alpine Meadows lodge. The lift would take skiers in both directions enabling round trip skiing on KT-22, Whitewolf and a quick shot accross the Alpine Meadows parking lot to the lodge. In fact, Alpine could simply have their buses terminate at the angle station to keep them out of the slow going in the parking lot and enable skiers coming from the lake to quickly jet over to the Alpine Meadows lodge or up and over via KT-22. This lift could be a Chondola to service both the KT and White Wolf sections as well as those skiers who are simply trying to transport between the base areas.
Oh yeah and before you freak out about KT not having enough capacity in the event of half the skiers headed over to Alpine on this new lift, that can be solved very easily by moving the existing KT-22 express quad chair over to replace Exhibition and Olympic Lady with one lift thereby splitting KT-22 into two parts while also providing Squaw another major lift on storm days.
Net net lets be a little more positive....This is a great thing for skiers, the Tahoe economy, as well as KSL.
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...so much bluster...
Hardly
– I chuckle thinking about the media missing key points of the sale, especially SAM and some of the bigger business publications.Yes - Theoretically you can put an “angle station” on Mars but you still won’t be able to ski between the resorts.
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Posted 02 October 2011 - 07:38 AM
alexboesen, on 01 October 2011 - 02:13 PM, said:
All they need to do is replace KT-22 with one high speed lift with a midstation at the top of KT-22, and an angle station at the bottom of White Wolf and a terminus at the Alpine Meadows lodge. The lift would take skiers in both directions enabling round trip skiing on KT-22, Whitewolf and a quick shot accross the Alpine Meadows parking lot to the lodge. In fact, Alpine could simply have their buses terminate at the angle station to keep them out of the slow going in the parking lot and enable skiers coming from the lake to quickly jet over to the Alpine Meadows lodge or up and over via KT-22. This lift could be a Chondola to service both the KT and White Wolf sections as well as those skiers who are simply trying to transport between the base areas.
Loon Mountain, NH has a setup like this. There is a fixed grip quad between the two mountains that transports skiers in both directions. You can't ski between the two mountains, but for all practical purposes they are connected and traveling between them takes all of 10 minutes.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:35 AM
Vail’s quest for market share…post #5
Hoping to capture more of the market share of Tahoe skiers Vail has purchased the rights to run Kirkwood.
http://www.sierrasun...entProfile=1051
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Also being missed by the media (and perhaps more to the point) is the aspect of Vail now owing the rights to operate the nearby Northstar ski resort and the huge corporate giant to control ticket pricing from their nearest competitors …Alpine Meadows and Squaw Valley. Alpine losing a share of its skiers to aggressive pricing competition was perhaps a big reason why Alpine was for sale and why Squaw Valley would certainly have said “well either Vail is going to make an offer to purchase Alpine (this would control the market) or we can offset Vails’ impact (on us) and buy Alpine”.
Hoping to capture more of the market share of Tahoe skiers Vail has purchased the rights to run Kirkwood.
http://www.sierrasun...entProfile=1051
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 06:38 AM
Kelly, on 23 February 2012 - 05:35 AM, said:
Hoping to capture more of the market share of Tahoe skiers Vail has purchased the rights to run Kirkwood.
This appears to be an outright purchase- not operating rights as in the agreement at Northstar.
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