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#1 DonaldMReif

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Posted 06 February 2011 - 09:29 AM

I know that the lift itself is a 1990 Poma high speed quad, and I also know that the lift is designed to be converted into a gondola at night.

A question I have, however, is this: are the grips of the gondola cabins different from the grips of the chairs?

I ask this because when I was looking at skierdude9450's gallery on the lift, I noticed that the metal detachable strip seems to have tracks for two types of grips.

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#2 Lift Kid

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Posted 06 February 2011 - 01:12 PM

What you are seeing there is a wear pattern on that detach rail. I am fairly certain that the two wear patterns would be from the two different carrier types. Although I do not know for sure, I would guess that the quad chairs utilize a TB-41 grip, and the gondola cabins utilize a Double TB-41. In that case, the primary roller (is that the correct term?) may hit the rail differently.

My theory. The lift mechanics may be able to chime in with more accurate information.

Here is a picture of a double TB-41 vs. a regular TB-41.

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Posted 06 February 2011 - 01:54 PM

I'm pretty sure that the gondolas use the same grips since they're 4 passenger cabins. I doubt that there would be room in those terminals for a double grip. That is a very interesting picture that I've never noticed before. However I'm pretty sure that the left track is the one that the grips would run on. The track on the right doesn't seem to follow the contour of the compression rail.
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Posted 06 February 2011 - 02:05 PM

I'm a mechanic at WP. Not sure what you were seeing in the photo, but the chairs and gondolas both use the same TB-41 grips.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 05:44 AM

the metal strip gets a a groove over time from the metal rollers on the TB-41 and can be re- oriented to wear on a different area of the metal strip. you can also flip it over to use the other side. hence the 2 wear patterns
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Posted 08 February 2011 - 08:33 AM

View Postaug, on 08 February 2011 - 05:44 AM, said:

the metal strip gets a a groove over time from the metal rollers on the TB-41 and can be re- oriented to wear on a different area of the metal strip. you can also flip it over to use the other side. hence the 2 wear patterns

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 01:43 PM

When have they used the gondolas? I don't go up to WP much. I didn't even know they put gondola cabins on there.

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#8 DonaldMReif

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 02:02 PM

View PostDakarNick, on 08 February 2011 - 01:43 PM, said:

When have they used the gondolas? I don't go up to WP much. I didn't even know they put gondola cabins on there.



They are used at night to transport diners up to dinner at Sunspot Lodge, located at the top of the lift.
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Posted 08 February 2011 - 02:26 PM

Thanks, I didn't know that. How many cabins and where do they store them?

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 06:33 PM

Not sure on the number, but they're stored at the bottom in the largish lift shack/grip shop-- correct, underroos?
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Posted 09 February 2011 - 06:07 AM

Cool, thanks guys!

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 02:03 PM

View Postliftmech, on 08 February 2011 - 06:33 PM, said:

Not sure on the number, but they're stored at the bottom in the largish lift shack/grip shop-- correct, underroos?



As was said, the gondolas are used for dinners at Sunspot, as well as special events at night. There are 20 gondola cabins that are stored in the maintenance building. There is a rail system from the terminal to the building so we can put gondolas on or take them off the line. The cabins are put on in groups of 4 at a time, replacing a group of 4 chairs. The transfer rails are actuated automatically to save a little time.

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 12:27 PM

the only difference on this top terminal in a door closer and a door opener rail. The closer rail is more visible on the light side somewhat pointing down - you can see in through the ladder into the terminal. And that roller is attached to the chair stem. Other than that everything is the same.







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