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[iceberg210]

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Boeing has recieved an order for 50 7E7s from ANA. They have now launched the 7E7 and have committed to produce it. This is huge news for us BOeing fans and lets just say I couldn't be happier.

Long Live Boeing!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

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[SkiBachelor]

Who is ANA? I have never even heard of this airline before. It is European?

[Bill]

All Nippon Airlines (Japan).

[KZ]

Yup. Cool plane. Does it replace the 767?

[Boeinglover]

Yes!
It replaces the 757 and 767 Boeing Aircraft. Airbus has a nice A380 though. It would be nice if Boeing would release it sooner, Oh well.
Regards,
Boeinglover
:)

[poloxskier]

I heard that in wake of Airbus' release of the A380 Boeing has brought up the posibility of prusuing the 747-X 600 passenger model again after droping it a few years ago. They will probably see how the A380 sells and then if it is favorable prusue the 747-X since its built off the 747-400 it will take alot less time to design, build, and have flying. I'm anxious to see the A380 in the sky but I would much perfer to fly a Boeing product of the same size.

[SkiBachelor]

I'm not sure if you guys read the New York Times, but Airbus is kicking Boeings but right now and it's kind of sad. The reason for this is because European governments have been investing heavily in Airbus to make it compete better with Boeing. Such funding went to design the new double decker plane along with other plant improvements. And if airlines do buy an Airbus right now, they are opened to more places to land along with having to pay less landing fees. It's too bad that the U.S. spends so much money on NASA and never makes any money off of it rather than helping companies like Boeing.

[poloxskier]

The different political climate in the USA wouldn't allow that to happen though. Government funding of a private company would never fly (no pun intended) in the US. It is sad that Boeing is now second to Airbus especialy in my opinion since im not a fan of Airbus' products.

[KZ]

If they go for that new 747 it would be a huge finincial mistake. Even though long range planes are practical for some applications, the main concern should be economy (7e7) or a whole new plane type. I know it wouldn't be hard to stretch the to deck of it but it just wouldn't make sense. I doubt airbus will sell too many of those a380's just because most airlines have enough planes for their overseas travel and long range travel. Most of these airlines fly 747-400's or a340's so that doesn't make a lot of room. Most will probably be replacements for some older 300's but other wise the capicity isnt that much more so it doesnt make a whole lot of sense to get rid of a plane they paid great sums of money for just to add 50-100 seats a plance. It will be interesting to see what happens though because no one really knows for sure.

[poloxskier]

It will be interesting to see what will come. I'm hoping that boeing will go ahead with their new prototype for a supersonic. I was hoping to take a ride on the concorde before it was withdrawn from service but it didn't work out so I hope Boeing develops another supersonic jet.

[KZ]

that would be nice. It has been too long and its time for an economical sst to come out. Regular planes are fast and all but we need another leap like that from prop to jet, now just from jet to really really fast jet. I think the main problem is fuel consumption and the sound barrier as the sonic boom isn't something you want to hear every 15 minutes

[poloxskier]

Well due to category 3 noise restrictions the supersonic planes would be limited to overwater flights but the one that Boeing is proposing is much more efficient than the Concorde and also intrestingly enough has no forward facing cockpit windows. They have side windows and then lcds for forward facing views.

[crazyskier91]

I read an article that said that Boeing was going to bring back thier 2217 sst, (not sure if that's the right number), which is twice the size of the concorde, to be realeased in 2008. In a way Boeing is supported by the government. Boeing makes 3/4 of the air to air missiles used by the airforce, and they also make the o so wonderful cruise missile. They are also developing the global hawk, a robot bomber.

[poloxskier]

Thats true but they are suported as a contractor not directly as Airbus is.

[floridaskier]

The 7E7 has now been renamed the 787, and it now has almost 200 order
I think Boeing should focus on something to replace the 737NG to go against the A320 better instead of the 747-Advanced. It would be based on 787 composite technology.That's a much bigger market segment (What comes after 797? 700? 808? The SST was going to be called the 2707) Then they could update the 777 line with composit materials, better engines, etc.
Before we start going supersonic again, we need to make our planes a whole lot more efficient or find new fuel sources altogether. There isn't much more than 30 years of oil supply left

[crazyskier91]

That's what the purpose of the 737-900 is. To replace the older versions, Boeing is using new airframes ofr the 900 series instead of upgrading older versions.

[iceberg210]

The 737-900 is simply a small strech of the 737-800. Also the fact is that the 737NG out performs the A320 in most areas and overall is a better aircraft if you were to look at the figures.

BTW Boeing got an order yesterday for 30 737NG's and 20 options from JAL and an order for 5 orders and 5 options for the 7E7 from Ethiopian.

This post has been edited by iceberg210: 05 February 2005 - 08:09 AM

[floridaskier]

I also think the 737NG is better than the A320, but it's also a lot more expensive, because Boeing isn't getting government subsidies like Airbus is.
I didn't know about that JAL 737NG order though

i'm sorry, but the 787 has to be the best looking plane ever conceived

[SkiBachelor]

You never know if some airlines will replace their newer planes with the A380-555. I remember when American Airlines bought the new MD-11s and it only kept them for like 5 years before AA bought an entire fleet of 777s.

[floridaskier]

Airbus is responding to the B787 with its own A350 - a re-engined and lighter version of its A330
The MD-11 never met the expectations McDonnell Douglas said it would, which made it not such a hot seller. It's having a nice life as a cargo plane though