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[KZ]

Well Intrawest is about to transform june mountain (mammoths little sister up north) with a new 15 person gondola and turn it into a botique village/mountain thing

This will destroy the resort for some and make it better for others.

Here is the article:
http://www.studioj2l.com/news/stories/html...4/01/67471.html

I personnally think it is too bad. It is a secret, and it will really change the entire town of june lake and it will destroy the on mountain experience as wierd as that may sound with a new 15 person gondola. Also, is that needed for a mountain with the longest lift lines under 5 minutes on holidays (only when the lifts stop they form) and the current double isnt even running at capicity, and it has a VERY low capicity at that.

[liftmech]

*Personal opinion only, not related to my working for Intrawest*
It's too bad Vancouver isn't willing to put that kind of capital into Copper when we have what sounds like much longer lines than June. Our gondola project keeps getting put off while the lifts it will replace get older and their respective lines get longer. If lines at June form only when the lifts stop, what's the hurry to upgrade? Spend money on improving the existing lifts (drives, controls, new mechanical items, etc.) instead of building new ones. I've always been of the opinion that new lifts are only justified when 1) the old ones are obsolete and cannot be upgraded 2) the old ones lack the capacity to eliminate lines 3) the old ones were profiled in the wrong place (i.e. C-1 at Crystal) and a new alignment would make the mountain flow more smoothly.

[KZ]

Well J-1 is for sure obselete. It was built in the early 60s, and runs probably 350-400 fpm becasue it transports both skiers and snowboarders plus foot traffic up to the chalet because they have no lodge at the base. I do believe they need a gondola, but not a 15 person model. The gondola is in a way replacing the qmc, only with 3 times the capicity.

[KZ]

Also, Mammoth Lakes is growing at an amazing rate, so maybe the plan is to transfer some of the new "residents" up to june mountain. I sure hope this doesnt ruin the mountain, but it may if it ends up working like intrawest wants it to. :(

[jibij]

I didn't even notice this on the bottom of the article the first time I read it - "This article, while based on fact... is pact with fiction. April fools to the June Forum. ;-)"

[SkiBachelor]

Well, Zack found this statement a long time ago so it's no April fools joke. But maybe the 15 passenger gondola is but there is defiantly a gondola going in.

[KZ]

Well now thats interesting. I completley missed that. haha. Yea, there are plans for a gondola, but maybe it wont be a 15, and not for another few years.

[floridaskier]

So how much of it is true? It says it is based on fact, but 'pact' with fiction... ^_^

[edmontonguy]

Why don't they put in a Pulse Gondola like Panorama?
A cheaper option than a standard gondola and still able to provide increased capacity and higher speed.

[SkiBachelor]

That wouldn't work for June because this is the lift that transports the skiers up the hill to the ski area. The double still provides higher capacity than the Village Gondola at Panorama. Where as the Village Gondola at Panorama only has an hourly capacity of 870 p/h, the double is around 1,200 p/h. Plus the length of this double chair is a lot longer than the Village Gondola at Panorama. It makes more sense to have a gondola in this case than a pulse lift.

[KZ]

If only the QMC was fixed up........

[CAski]

Notice how the website address isn't for the Reno Gazette Journal. :tired:

Quite clever...

This post has been edited by CAski: 04 April 2004 - 08:15 PM

[KZ]

yea, he got me, but the fact is that a lot of this stuff will really be happening in teh next few years, including the gondola and the housing adjacent to the parking lot. June is going through some interesting times right now.

[CAski]

A little change can be good... just as long as they don't destroy it.

[KZ]

Yes, but it seems it will turn june lakes into some little mass produced resort town. Hopefully itll come out alright

[jibij]

Though I didn't like the 10 minute wait for the double chair to get into the resort the first time I was there (powder day - mammoth was 98% booked), it was definatly worth it. The entire day I didn't have to wait in a line, and by 11am, the J1 double was empty and we could do laps on the 1200 some vertical feet with knee deep powder. I definatly like June the way it is. It is a nice break from the ultra-commercial resort Mammoth is becoming. It was cool having to struggle with crowds. I like the days when the lifties hang out inside their control rooms and come out when the occasional person comes towards the lift. If June gets developed, this won't happen anymore.

I know some people that live in mammoth and never go there. They go to June everyday even though they spent $500 on a midweek pass for mammoth.

[KZ]

Alright, this is for real, i promise. Here is the base are map. Its a pdf and might take awhile to load.

http://www.monocounty.ca.gov/cdd%20site/ro...s/site-ex_c.pdf

[CAski]

Why does it look as though they are trying to turn it into Northstar or something?

[KZ]

I dunno, i guess intrawest has similar design plans.

[Kicking Horse]

it sounds like to me interwest needs to Put the money into Copper @ this Point. Copper could use some New Lifts over in the K & L pod (k, l h lifts)

just my 2 cents................