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#1 Peter

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 07:39 PM

Is Doppelmayr serious? 14 stations and $350 million!


‘Chariots of the Sky’ could fly in Atlantic City, gondola maker says
By THOMAS BARLAS Staff Writer, 609-272-7201
Published: Wednesday, April 08, 2009

ATLANTIC CITY — The massive moving sidewalks were never built.

There’s still no magnetic-levitation train humming through the resort.

Now, an international company is proposing another non-traditional way to move millions of people through the city: a $350 million “Atlantic City Chariots of the Sky” gondola system that would carry passengers completely around the island municipality over homes, the Boardwalk, streets, wetlands and marinas.

Officials with Doppelmayr CTEC said Wednesday that the project could carry enough people to places such as the casinos, Gardner’s Basin and the Atlantic City Rail Terminal to get millions of vehicles off the street, and significantly reduce the amount of pollutants spewed by those vehicles. The gondolas could be used in emergency evacuations, and police can ride free and use surveillance cameras installed on gondola support poles to keep watch over the city.

“We will be the safest community in the nation,” said Cynthia Rose Cartopassi, an agent for Doppelmayr, whose U.S. office is in Salt Lake City.

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The gondola system would be a major tourism draw, Cartopassi predicted, adding it could draw groups and be used for special excursions. Casinos could order special gondola cars that could whisk their customers — and especially high rollers — through the city via regular ground transportation, she said.

But it first has to built.

Cartopassi said Doppelmayr has $350 million in bank backing, and has presented the project to the city and agencies such as the state Department of Transportation, or DOT, and the Casino Reinvestment Development Authority.

Doppelmayr would build and operate the gondola network, and hopefully get a lease-purchase agreement with the state or other private entity, such as one or more casinos, she said. Tickets, which could cost about $8 for all-day traveling, would help repay the investment costs, she said.

Cartopassi said the project ideally could be built at no taxpayer expense.

City Planning Director William Crane at first chuckled when reminded of the project, saying Cartopassi has “made the rounds” to at least two mayors and different agencies about “Atlantic City Chariots of the Sky” — something he said would be “very difficult to get built.” The project would, at the very least, need hard-to-attain permits from the state Department of Environmental Protection to travel over wetlands, he said.

When asked if he thought it would be built, Crane said, “Not in the near future.”

Mayor Lorenzo Langford, who attended the gondola project announcement at Garden Pier on the Boardwalk, called the project a “step in the right direction” toward developing a green transportation system.

DOT officials had no immediate information about the project.

Cartopassi said the electrically run project got a major push Wednesday when it received the backing of the International Green Energy Council. That endorsement could make it easier for the project to get federal economic stimulus funding, given its green energy component.

Energy Council President Ralph Avallone, who attended Wednesday’s announcement, called the project a “great opportunity for New Jersey.”

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 08:54 PM

The biggest problem with a system like this, especially with 14 stations is that the entire system shuts down if something happens, like a passenger loading issue.

I don't know if a system like this is the best of ideas.
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Posted 09 April 2009 - 04:32 AM

We have enough trouble with three stations, let alone 14. A pulse system may be a possibility if the station spacings are correct. Evacuating the thing would be interesting given the wetland areas it crosses. Just can't see it happening myself.
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Posted 09 April 2009 - 03:15 PM

Well, it would be interesting to see, should it ever happen. I bet there are ways around that issue of shutting down the entire system in the event of a passenger loading issue. I'm sure that there would be multiple drive units that could operate as their own system. (like Telluride) So, what I think they could design is a system that allows for one drive to stop, and the others to slow down. The cabins that come into the terminals where the next stage is stopped could stop in the terminal (assuming a longer terminal) which should allow enough time for a simple passenger problem to get sorted out and the section re-started. There are possibilities.

Crazy idea though...

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 04:00 AM

I'd be interested to see how a ring system would work versus a traditional point to point system. Would the carriers traveling in one direction continue to travel that direction around the ring and the carriers on the opposite side do the same just in reverse? I too also question the ability to have a viable system with 14 stations. The only way I can see that a system like that were to function properly would be if each carrier stopped at each station much like a subway system with enough carrier spacing to allow for one carrier to be stopped but to have the cable continuously moving. I'd be interested to follow this project if it ever comes to fruition.
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Posted 11 April 2009 - 06:55 AM

"$350 million in bank backing"... Credit Suisse?...Wells Fargo?

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 06:16 PM

I have enough troubles with 2 stations. I cant picture 14 of em.........
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Posted 12 April 2009 - 11:02 AM

I'll bet the farm that whoever thought of this is surely joking. A gondola should have really no more than two midway terminals (like the BreckConnect Gondola does). :dry:
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