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#21 skiboardwa

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Posted 19 February 2008 - 04:46 PM

wow...
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#22 gbcomp

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Posted 19 February 2008 - 04:58 PM

bad day to rid the lift, but that's just how I see it

#23 Peter

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Posted 19 February 2008 - 11:05 PM

The lift does run in the summer, with half the cabins and some bike carriers. Upon closer look today, I realized that there were derails of some sort on the majority of towers from top to bottom and on both sides. The stop must have been very sudden.

Do you guys think the stop caused the gondola cabin to get tangled up or did the gondola getting tangled up cause the stop?

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Posted 20 February 2008 - 10:14 AM

View PostSkier, on Feb 20 2008, 12:05 AM, said:

The lift does run in the summer, with half the cabins and some bike carriers. Upon closer look today, I realized that there were derails of some sort on the majority of towers from top to bottom and on both sides. The stop must have been very sudden.

Do you guys think the stop caused the gondola cabin to get tangled up or did the gondola getting tangled up cause the stop?


As long as the tower monitoring circuits were working, it would require a deropement to trip the tower circuits and cause a stop. I'd guess that as the grips came through the cable catch on the closer tower, the cabin hit the fallen assemble, and the grips pried the rope from the cable catch. IMO
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Posted 20 February 2008 - 12:36 PM

Of course this is speculation but it almost looks as if the tower where the cabin is tangled up in the sheave assembly actually snapped up on the downhill side of the line because upon comparing with the uphill side it just doesn't look as if sheave train should be up that high. Any offical word yet on what happened?

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Posted 21 February 2008 - 03:34 PM

Could a cabin being caught in a cable catcher really cause enough force to derail the whole line??

Industry members: is there anything else about this in the SORT forum? If so please post.
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#27 greasemonk

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Posted 21 February 2008 - 04:35 PM

I think Lift Dino is correct with an alignment issue, or a major sheave assembley failure. Was there any passengers?

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Posted 21 February 2008 - 04:46 PM

Yes, 50 passengers were evacuated after 3 hours and they all got $100 gift certificates.
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Posted 23 February 2008 - 06:15 AM

Wind can get gondola cabins swinging. Can only ASS·U·ME since there are no facts/details.
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Posted 23 February 2008 - 09:16 AM

Skier, you were there. Was it really windy?
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Posted 23 February 2008 - 09:16 AM

I don't know if things are being kept mum on purpose by the industry side of things or if no one in fact knows anything. Wild minds can create stories.... so hopefully we will get some kind of official word. I would think it would have to be more than wind because one would think a wind gust like that would have affected other lifts.

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#32 Peter

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 05:02 PM

I didn't get there until a few hours after the accident. It was not windy at all in the afternoon and this is in a treed section that is very protected.
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 11:24 AM

Boyne USA had to make a quick desision on what to do with it, im sure what they are doing wiht the lift this summer isnt finalized yet.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 02:48 PM

Over a month later, nothing's changed:

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 03:24 PM

Maybe they are just waiting for the snow to leave to knock it down.
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Posted 25 May 2008 - 03:51 PM

The cable and cabins are now gone, I wonder how they even got it to run well enough to get them off the line! Now the big question is whether there will be a replacement.
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Posted 26 May 2008 - 12:07 PM

View PostSkier, on May 25 2008, 07:51 PM, said:

The cable and cabins are now gone, I wonder how they even got it to run well enough to get them off the line! Now the big question is whether there will be a replacement.



My Guess is yes, if its needed?, along with a another lift replacement at one of Boynes properties, not yet mentioned

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 11:37 AM

And that brings up a good question. Is a replacement for the gondola really needed? The Swift Current HSQ has more capacity than both of the gondolas did combined when they were both in service. When I was there, there was evidently no need for extra capacity as I never waited for more than a minute at that lift. So unless they really want to show off, I doubt they will replace the gondola.
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Posted 27 May 2008 - 01:43 PM

View Postskierdude9450, on May 27 2008, 02:37 PM, said:

So unless they really want to show off, I doubt they will replace the gondola.

More like a tower alignment project all summer! :thumbsup: :tongue:

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Posted 28 May 2008 - 03:37 PM

If you're a member of the Sugarloaf board, check out this thread:
http://www.sugarloaf...opic.php?t=1893

The key part reads:
"...May 28, at 7:30am, there was a flat bed trailer truck loaded with 18 gondola cars. They were used four passenger cars that had ‘Big Sky Montana’ on the cars. Others also witnessed the truck loaded with gondola cars. Now they are gone. I did not take a picture because I did not expect them to disappear. Here are the facts:
1. Loafer employees stated that they were going to be stored at Sugarloaf.
2. Another person saw the truck with the Gondola cars heading north on Rt 27 later this morning. Supposedly going to Loon."





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