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[Snoqualmie guy]

I've found what Kicking Horse said is true in a terrain park area. But once you get away from there the people are alot more friendly and also have more skill in the sport.

[lastchair_44]

Kicking Horse, on Dec 18 2007, 04:55 PM, said:

Snowboarders Suck... And I find that all of em are druggies and people who just dont give a shit about anything.


Most mis unloads were Snowboarders. Why is it so hard to unload a chair on a board???


here in Greece Snowboarding is not as big as it is in the States.

So since I both ski, and snowboard does that mean I only half suck?

[Shawn]

So since I both ski, and snowboard does that mean I only half suck?


Maybe you are bi-polar...Or bi-snowsexual..or just plain confused.....
Talk to your doctor..

[cjb]

Kicking Horse, on Dec 18 2007, 03:55 PM, said:

Snowboarders Suck... And I find that all of em are druggies and people who just dont give a shit about anything

This is such an ignorant statement that it 's a shame, you actually sound intelligent in other posts.

[Callao]

lastchair_44, on Dec 18 2007, 05:48 PM, said:

So since I both ski, and snowboard does that mean I only half suck?

No, it just goes to show that some people say stupid things sometimes. Never mind the ignorant statements and hasty generalizations.

Awe, cjb! You beat me to it!

This post has been edited by Callao: 18 December 2007 - 05:57 PM

[Bill]

I agree that statement is pre-judgemental. I know quite a few snowboarders who are not druggies and are very polite to everyone on the hillside. But there are a handful that are as Jeff stated.

[Kicking Horse]

Bill, on Dec 19 2007, 01:23 AM, said:

I agree that statement is pre-judgemental. I know quite a few snowboarders who are not druggies and are very polite to everyone on the hillside. But there are a handful that are as Jeff stated.

My statement is true based on what I have seen / dealt with personally. I'm sure there are snowboarders out there who are not rude / druggies and are very nice but I have yet to come accross any in Colorado.

[NoPainNoJane]

The reason Burton ran the promo was 2 fold, 1 was to bring attention to the fact that there are still ski areas out there thinking that they're elitist and still ban snowboarders. With the younger generation split 50/50 between skiers and boarders, it is only a matter of time before they either fold or allow snowboarders if they want to keep the families coming. I firmly believe that they will allow boarders rather than go out of businesss (good example is Taos). The second was to probably piss off all of skiers out there that think they're better than snowboarders. Talk about getting all of your panties in a wad, it looks like it worked. Get off your high horse, pull your head out of your ass, and realize that skiers are just as bad as snowboarders when it comes to the bad apples. As for everybody that thinks snowboarders are rude, arrogant, and shouldn't be allowed anywhere, I would like to give a big F U to you, we have every right to be on the slopes as you do.

[lastchair_44]

NoPainNoJane, on Dec 19 2007, 07:32 AM, said:

Talk about getting all of your panties in a wad, it looks like it worked. Get off your high horse, pull your head out of your ass, and realize that skiers are just as bad as snowboarders when it comes to the bad apples. As for everybody that thinks snowboarders are rude, arrogant, and shouldn't be allowed anywhere, I would like to give a big F U to you, we have every right to be on the slopes as you do.

Thank you.

[Emax]

Maybe a few well-timed, on-the-spot beheadings would cut down on impoliteness in both camps.
Americans are generally annoying people while recreating in any fashion.

[Callao]

Touché.

[cjb]

Aha, non-smokers are not on the list yet they may make demands that force private businesses to discriminate against smokers. At least here in CA and many other states I am sure. I do not smoke and never have, I am simply on freedoms side.

I snowboard at a pretty high level, but occasionally ski just for somehting different. I ski at an intermediate level now but may work on it more soon. It mostly depends on the condition of our park, if it is good I will ride, if not I ski because just doing it is challenge enough.

Callao, on Dec 18 2007, 02:04 PM, said:

Here are the protected classes, according to US anti-discrimination laws:

Race
Ethnicity
Religion
Color
National origin
Age (40 and over)
Sex
Familial status
Sexual Orientation (in some jurisdictions)
Disability status
Veteran status
Political affiliation

No other group will have any legal ground when filing suit based on discrimination. However, they may get what they want for some other reason.

Lastchair 44, I am that person who skis and snowboards. I'm inherently a skier, but I learned to board up to intermediate level last season as a lift operator (the boots are much more comfortable!). Riding hurts! At least for a beginner like me. Has anybody else crossed over either way?

[Carl]

tram mechanic, on Dec 16 2007, 08:47 PM, said:

for what it's worth, I've imagined a "snowboard free" Jackson Hole for a long time...:-)

It was that way for a long, long time....

Carl

[Emax]

Carl, on Dec 19 2007, 11:58 AM, said:

It was that way for a long, long time....

Carl

Street racing, gang fights, school shootings, car-jackings, spray-paint graffito, road rage, and stupid lawsuits were also once non-existant activities by the American mainstream.

The lowest levels of humanity - or at least their values - have been elevated to normalcy. Go think.

[k2skier]

NoPainNoJane, on Dec 19 2007, 06:32 AM, said:

I firmly believe that they will allow boarders rather than go out of businesss (good example is Taos).

As for everybody that thinks snowboarders are rude, arrogant, and shouldn't be allowed anywhere...

Taos is the worst example, they are the most isolated of the 4.

No one said to not allow snowboarders, there's no reason for you to get your thong all bunched up Is being able to ride at 98.8% of all the SKI areas in the states not good enough for ya?!
Is it really a need to ride at MRG, DV and ALTA, or just an ego/power trip. I personally think it's all a marketing scheme for Burton.

This is my first year with my own equipment snowboarding, and generalizing, yes more boarders a ruder than skiers. It's not like this is some kind of revelation, the majority of boarders are young males, most not ALL, so it goes with the territory to be a stupid angry punk. I was at times, and most can be, I have a 14 year old boy who can have a 'tude at times.

[Callao]

NoPainNoJane, on Dec 19 2007, 07:32 AM, said:

The reason Burton ran the promo was 2 fold, 1 was to bring attention to the fact that there are still ski areas out there thinking that they're elitist and still ban snowboarders. With the younger generation split 50/50 between skiers and boarders, it is only a matter of time before they either fold or allow snowboarders if they want to keep the families coming. I firmly believe that they will allow boarders rather than go out of businesss (good example is Taos). The second was to probably piss off all of skiers out there that think they're better than snowboarders. Talk about getting all of your panties in a wad, it looks like it worked. Get off your high horse, pull your head out of your ass, and realize that skiers are just as bad as snowboarders when it comes to the bad apples. As for everybody that thinks snowboarders are rude, arrogant, and shouldn't be allowed anywhere, I would like to give a big F U to you, we have every right to be on the slopes as you do.

Come on! We just censured a skier for "ignorant statements" in this thread, and then you pull the same stunt? Who do you think you are? Please be a little more respectful.

The main question in this thread is a matter of rights. Who has the right to make a rule? Who has a right to do what they want? Should snowboarding be allowed? A rider feels he has a right to snowboard where he pleases. A resort feels they reserve the right to ban snowboarding on their ground. Two conflicting rights: who trumps who? Here's the answer: the entity with the money makes the rules.

And why is that? Because the one with money has bargaining power. NoPainNoJane, you can snowboard wherever you want. How much are you willing to pay for it? Buy your way into Alta.

Of course, then a person who has bought his way into Alta is going to complain he was charged significantly more than anybody else. Why is his complaint not justified? Because he chose to engage in a different activity. A more expensive one. Your race, ethnicity, gender stick to you--they are you. But snowboarding is what you choose to do. And yes, we can discriminate against what you do.
Here are some no-no's:

Smoking in the grocery store
Peeing into the wind
Snowmobiling at a ski resort
Taking drugs to school
Picking your nose in public (spare us please!)

[LiftTech]

lastchair_44, on Dec 18 2007, 07:48 PM, said:

So since I both ski, and snowboard does that mean I only half suck?

Yup, just like me. Sorry. Just be yourself and try very hard to remember what's on your feet and only suck when you’re boarding.

[cjb]

Emax, on Dec 19 2007, 01:35 PM, said:

Street racing, gang fights, school shootings, car-jackings, spray-paint graffito, road rage, and stupid lawsuits were also once non-existant activities by the American mainstream.

The lowest levels of humanity - or at least their values - have been elevated to normalcy. Go think.

I think that I have read that there is less crime now (modern era) than in the past. It is just the mass media information network that makes you so much more aware of crimes than in previous generations. If I can find a specific article on it I'll link it.

[Callao]

cjb, on Dec 19 2007, 06:31 PM, said:

I think that I have read that there is less crime now (modern era) than in the past. It is just the mass media information network that makes you so much more aware of crimes than in previous generations. If I can find a specific article on it I'll link it.

You might be right on that--I've heard similar things, but I can't cite my sources. Smoking has gone down. Especially smoking in grocery stores.

[Snoqualmie guy]

That would be because it's illegal to smoke in public buildings, in WA at least.