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[Allan]

Can't we all just get along? We've had snowboarding at Red since they were invented - sure there was attitude in the beginning but that's long since disappeared. Now we all just ride & ski together in one big happy family. Maybe it's because were Canadian and like to keep the peace. When I joined this site I found it hard to believe that there are resorts that still didn't allow snowboards - I had never heard of it before.

[EagleAce]

I never have understood the animosity between skiers and snowboarders--I mean we joke around here (and at truckstopUSA, right, tahoe?? ) but with us it's all in fun. Just watching the attitude of the skiers in the video made me wonder--what kind of a life do those people have?? If they feel that way about snowboarders, how do they feel about other people in general?? I feel that both skiers and snowboarders have a big thing in common--we both love wintersports!

This post has been edited by EagleAce: 16 December 2007 - 09:09 PM

[Snoqualmie guy]

I could understand it being cool to have a skiers only mt. but there is a limit and I think both parties crossed it in the movies.

[Callao]

Rightly said; lines were crossed. I do have a prejudice--I discriminate against disrespect. And I feel justified. What was a person wearing that made others so mad? Arrogance.
The sign that was thought to be understood but apparently was not, seems to appear on no mountain at all. But it reads thus:

"Widget Mountain is for people. No jerks allowed."

This post has been edited by Callao: 16 December 2007 - 10:07 PM

[skisox34]

At Mad River it would be hard for snowboarders to unload the single and as far as the other resorts I think 3 major no snowboard areas are fine and I have no beef with snowboarders so I'll go to both areas that allow snowboarders and those that don't.

[k2skier]

For me, it's about how the 2 different devices work. In powder, snowboards like to make a lot larger turns than most skiers, where most skiers make shorter turns in powder. Other than that I've been skiing at areas that have always allowed snowboarders and never had any problems with boarders. After skiing Alta for the first time about ten years ago I was amazed (forgot) how much different the slopes were without boarder tracks, ie; big ruts, bad moguls and completely different lines in the pow. I want to patronize places that have enough integrity to stand by their values.

Sunday was our, my son and myself, first time up with our new snowboards. Looks like I'm going to be a bi-slider now!

[Snoqualmie guy]

Why would it be hard for a boarder to uload the single at MRG?

[Peter]

Snowboarder question: Why do they "slap" there boards against the snow all the time in the lift line? It is just to be annoying or is there a reason?

This post has been edited by Skier: 17 December 2007 - 05:16 PM

[Snoqualmie guy]

To get the snow off our board so our foot won't fall asleep up the lift.

[Peter]

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To get the snow off our board so our foot won't fall asleep up the lift.

I don't understand, what is the connection between snow on the board and your foot falling asleep???

[zeedotcom]

2 things:

The snow on your board causes extra weight which tweaks the foot that is still strapped in a little more, putting pressure on places and sometimes causing it to fall asleep. Supporting your back binding and tipping the board a bit seems to solve my problem without all the slapping.

MRG sounds like just my kind of place, as it was described. I love moguls, I love short quick powder turns, and I really don't feel much need to be in a park. They also seem to be relatively at peace with the whole snowboard idea, just happy in their niche, based on the quote from the above referenced poaching "with our new snowboarding friends. We had about 35 riders "poach" the mountain this morning. They were incredibly respectful of our Single Chair dedication ceremony and helped to make it a special day at MRG. Thanks for visiting MRG!"

And I snowboard. And I'm from the Midwest. Honestly in terms of overall style, I'm more like an old school skier than a new school anything. Glen Plake is one of those people that I look up to a lot. And yes, when I lived in Tahoe last year, I entered the Gunbarrel 25.

Here's to snow, no matter how you do it.

This post has been edited by zeedotcom: 17 December 2007 - 07:11 PM

[BigSkier]

Oh, give me a break! There's a reason why snowboarders are not wanted at those resorts, and that's because they're RUDE! So what if there are three resorts that don't allow them? Some people just want a break from constantly getting sprayed, cut in front of, or getting snow dumped onto them off of the lifts by snowboarders. I say those resorts should stay the way they are.

[Snoqualmie guy]

Well said, MRG also sounds perfect for me besides he fact I board and not ski. I think that there are many snowboarders who are rude, which gives the rest of us a bad name.

[skierdude9450]

Truly I think that most snowboarders would get quite bored with MRG's minimal grooming, no terrain parks, and bumps all over the place. I think that even if they did allow snowboarders, very few would come. Alta does have some potential to attract snowboarders, but Alta is definately a skier's mountain and the snowboarders would naturally prefer Snowbird, even though they might get a few runs in at Alta. (Talk about snowboarders being @$$#073$, did you hear what that one guy at Alta was saying that most snowboarders should be put in jail and that he wants to break their boards and tackle them. Jesus Christ, talk about being violent!) I don't know what snowboarder in their right mind would want to go to Deer Valley, I know I don't. And Taos makes sense as a skiing and riding area since there are no other areas around and there is great terrain for either to enjoy. But IMO, I think that ultimately it should be the area's decision on whether they allow certain snowsports or not, but I don't think that it should be on the basis of demography such as a place like Deer Valley.

[Callao]

skierdude9450, on Dec 17 2007, 10:28 PM, said:

Talk about snowboarders being @$$#073$, did you hear what that one guy at Alta was saying that most snowboarders should be put in jail and that he wants to break their boards and tackle them.

Awe, the new media will always find one extremist. They're much more exciting than nice people.

[cjb]

I am a 17 year snowboarder (not 17 year old), and agree that resorts should have the right to allow want they want. Of course the government intervenes in everything these days so who knows if Jake has enough clout to "demand" snowboarding access. At least at MRG if it is on any kind of public land. You know, just a little money to a lobbyist and suddenly you are a priority. I think that a PRIVATE businees should be able to allow and restrict ANYONE they want for ANY reason they want. If I open a restaraunt and want to allow smoking then so be it. ( not here in CA though). But I'll go further, if I open a restaraunt and say no blacks may dine here or only blacks may dine here the so be it. It is my business to do as I please. 'The true sign of supporting freedom is supporting others freedom when you don't agree with them'. (Walter Williams) at least close enough to what he has said.

[lastchair_44]

BigSkier, on Dec 17 2007, 09:37 PM, said:

Oh, give me a break! There's a reason why snowboarders are not wanted at those resorts, and that's because they're RUDE! So what if there are three resorts that don't allow them? Some people just want a break from constantly getting sprayed, cut in front of, or getting snow dumped onto them off of the lifts by snowboarders. I say those resorts should stay the way they are.

What? Really?? As mentioned above, strapping into a board does not make you a rude person. In fact, I see just as many rude skiers as I do snowboarders here at Jackson Hole. I was walking to the rental shop on Saturday to get my wife's skis mounted and I witnessed a teenage skier, not snowboarder, cut an elderly woman off in front of Nick's which caused her to fall. Maybe it was an accident, but the kid did turn around, see that she was on the ground, and did not come back to help her up. (I helped her out) I wish the whole "war" between skiers and snowboarders would stop because personally I think it's extremely childish. By the way, what if a person skis and snowboards??

[Callao]

Here are the protected classes, according to US anti-discrimination laws:

Race
Ethnicity
Religion
Color
National origin
Age (40 and over)
Sex
Familial status
Sexual Orientation (in some jurisdictions)
Disability status
Veteran status
Political affiliation

No other group will have any legal ground when filing suit based on discrimination. However, they may get what they want for some other reason.

Lastchair 44, I am that person who skis and snowboards. I'm inherently a skier, but I learned to board up to intermediate level last season as a lift operator (the boots are much more comfortable!). Riding hurts! At least for a beginner like me. Has anybody else crossed over either way?

This post has been edited by Callao: 18 December 2007 - 02:07 PM

[Snoqualmie guy]

The only things I've done is X-country once and snowboarding.

[Kicking Horse]

Snowboarders Suck... And I find that all of em are druggies and people who just dont give a shit about anything.


Most mis unloads were Snowboarders. Why is it so hard to unload a chair on a board???


here in Greece Snowboarding is not as big as it is in the States.

This post has been edited by Kicking Horse: 18 December 2007 - 03:59 PM