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#21 Emax

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 11:24 AM

Maybe I missed something - but didn't this thread begin with the question: "What do some of you folks use for load testing a lift:dry" ?

Wet testing is works well for most folks - especially if you choose a method that allows pissing the water out from the containers gradually on the trip back down the mountain. No heavy lifting, no huge puddles at the top.
One can have bladders custom made by water mattress manufacturers for a pretty low dollar. These things fill uniformly, drain slowly on the downward return trip and store in a very small place. Unlike boxes lined with plastic bags, they're reusable - not creating a mountain of garbage after the test.

But this thread isn't about that - or any other "wet" media - the specification was "dry". Any real ideas - beyond sandbags? I've seen beer kegs (full ones) used - but that only makes sense if you have a high-traffic F&B service at the top of the lift... or a very thirsty load test crew.
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#22 Dr Frankenstein

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Posted 08 October 2007 - 06:36 PM

I'd say the "dry:" word on the first post is a messed-up code for the :dry: emoticon, Emax.

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 01:28 AM

Gravel always seemed like a good idea, most areas have it and I know of one are that used gravel in sand bags and use the gravel to build the unload ramp after the testing was complete.

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#24 Emax

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 07:51 AM

View PostDr Frankenstein, on Oct 8 2007, 08:36 PM, said:

I'd say the "dry:" word on the first post is a messed-up code for the :dry: emoticon, Emax.


I guess that's possible.
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 05:58 AM

View PostEmax, on Oct 5 2007, 11:24 AM, said:

I've seen beer kegs (full ones) used - but that only makes sense if you have a high-traffic F&B service at the top of the lift... or a very thirsty load test crew.

You want the load test crew to make it back down the mountain too!

#26 Emax

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 09:39 AM

View Postskisox34, on Oct 10 2007, 07:58 AM, said:

You want the load test crew to make it back down the mountain too!


If you're planning such a test - and your crew is concerned about this - contact me ASAP.
There is a crew here ready to help you with this problem.
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 09:50 AM

On Mt Hood the prefered medium for load testing is rock (snow conditioning) salt.
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 03:32 PM

:beer: :cheers: ya use what's available! :biggrin:

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Posted 25 October 2007 - 08:02 PM

A shot from the load test on Tuesday!

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#30 RibStaThiok

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Posted 26 October 2007 - 05:38 PM

How well did that old beauty do there Allan?
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Posted 26 October 2007 - 05:52 PM

View PostRibStaThio, on Oct 26 2007, 06:38 PM, said:

How well did that old beauty do there Allan?


Everything went perfect until we coupled the evac drive - which wouldn't drive the load. We had a new carb installed on the evac drive and it may just need some fine tuning. So we'll load the buckets again when it's all tuned up!
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Posted 26 October 2007 - 09:29 PM

What type of motor? (Primary and Evac)
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Posted 27 October 2007 - 06:31 AM

When we load tested one of our lifts a couple of years ago we had an aux that wouldn't move the load at the required speed. We did some fine tuning and it helped a bit but ended up changing the aux pulley size to something slightly smaller. When we looked at the original load test documents we saw that it BARELY made 100fpm brand new 25 years ago. This was a chrysler industrial 413.

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Posted 27 October 2007 - 09:19 AM

View PostRibStaThio, on Oct 26 2007, 10:29 PM, said:

What type of motor? (Primary and Evac)


Prime mover is a Avtek 250 HP electric, evac is a Ford 503 cid v8 (gas) industrial motor... looks like someone plunked a front end of a tractor in the drive station!

View Postcjb, on Oct 27 2007, 07:31 AM, said:

When we load tested one of our lifts a couple of years ago we had an aux that wouldn't move the load at the required speed. We did some fine tuning and it helped a bit but ended up changing the aux pulley size to something slightly smaller. When we looked at the original load test documents we saw that it BARELY made 100fpm brand new 25 years ago. This was a chrysler industrial 413.


Wish it was an option to change a pulley! This thing has a chain coupling with a 2:1 reducer in the drive line. And when I say it wouldn't drive the load - it wouldn't even move it.
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Posted 28 October 2007 - 02:10 PM

View PostAllan, on Oct 27 2007, 11:19 AM, said:

Prime mover is a Avtek 250 HP electric, evac is a Ford 503 cid v8 (gas) industrial motor... looks like someone plunked a front end of a tractor in the drive station!



Wish it was an option to change a pulley! This thing has a chain coupling with a 2:1 reducer in the drive line. And when I say it wouldn't drive the load - it wouldn't even move it.


Did the evac motor move the lift empty???
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Posted 28 October 2007 - 02:29 PM

View PostKicking Horse, on Oct 28 2007, 03:10 PM, said:

Did the evac motor move the lift empty???

Yup it did!
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 06:18 PM

View PostAllan, on Oct 28 2007, 03:29 PM, said:

Yup it did!



Were you guys able to get the problem solved on that Evac?
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 06:49 PM

View PostRibStaThio, on Nov 6 2007, 06:18 PM, said:

Were you guys able to get the problem solved on that Evac?


Yep! A brand new Edelbrock carb was the trick. The old girl has NEVER ran so well. :thumbsup:
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 07:45 PM

View PostAllan, on Nov 6 2007, 06:49 PM, said:

Yep! A brand new Edelbrock carb was the trick. The old girl has NEVER ran so well. :thumbsup:


as long as it's not a "QuadraJUNK"! :laugh:

:dry: everyone here KNOWS my suggestion for an auxillary!

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Posted 09 November 2007 - 06:16 AM

View PostEagleAce, on Nov 8 2007, 09:45 PM, said:

as long as it's not a "QuadraJUNK"! :laugh:

:dry: everyone here KNOWS my suggestion for an auxillary!


Diesel Power all the way ;)
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