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[nathanvg]

Skier, on Jun 22 2007, 03:59 PM, said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think I learned in Physics that if you drop from something like an airplane or chair, you fall straight down regardless of how fast the chair was going. So it should not make any difference Snoqualmie Guy if the chair is detach or not.

Without getting into a big Physics debate, the above is incorrect. To paraphrase Newton's 1st law, A object in motion tends to stay in motion. So an object with a horizontal velocity dropped from a chair or plane would tend to continue in the horizontal direction. (Air resistance would slow you down but should be negligible in the chair example) Once off the chair the only external force would be gravity which will effect the vertical speed only.

In principle, the idea that move horizontal speed could reduce the impact of a fall on a sloped surface appears correct. However, I don’t suspect that the difference in speed between a high speed lift and normal speed lift would be significant in most scenarios.

[skisox34]

You also have the snowdon triple at killington which had an old midstation so it's really low to the ground. I once, awile back, jumped there to access a closed run. I felt stupid though because I totally bit it on landing!

This post has been edited by skisox34: 27 June 2007 - 12:13 PM

[spark's]

To dwell on this topic is only gonna spark interest in something that is retarded and pointless... I wish i lived in UTAH 2 just take part in the pleasure of watching someone get a ride down to the holdin tank for a jackass stunt... This topic is getting old and repetitive.... I've been in this business for sometime and ppl have died jumping from lift's... DONT BE A JACKASS AND KEEP YOUR ASS IN THAT SEAT.... If you feel you've been hanging in the air to long BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE THE LIFT IS BROKEN... I'll tell you what, you maybe some arrogant son of someone thats got money or you just dont have any common sense do me and the rest of us lift mech's a favor and SIT BACK and let us do our job.... TY....

[Lift Kid]

spark's, on Jun 27 2007, 07:51 PM, said:

To dwell on this topic is only gonna spark interest in something that is retarded and pointless... I wish i lived in UTAH 2 just take part in the pleasure of watching someone get a ride down to the holdin tank for a jackass stunt... This topic is getting old and repetitive.... I've been in this business for sometime and ppl have died jumping from lift's... DONT BE A JACKASS AND KEEP YOUR ASS IN THAT SEAT.... If you feel you've been hanging in the air to long BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE THE LIFT IS BROKEN... I'll tell you what, you maybe some arrogant son of someone thats got money or you just dont have any common sense do me and the rest of us lift mech's a favor and SIT BACK and let us do our job.... TY....

Well said!!

[k2skier]

Limelight, on Jun 11 2007, 10:12 PM, said:

Didn't the old Green Valley double at Crystal derail once because some kid jumped?

If that's the lift just to the right (when riding the chair) of the main feeder out of the base then, I WAS THERE!!!
It was 1988/89 (?), I almost went past the lodge to get on the lower chair but went on the main chair out of the base. When I was almost to the top of the other chair I saw some extreme movement, a snowboarder pushed off the chair when unloading and something went waaaaaay wrong. The next thing I see out of the corner of my eye was people being flung into the air from the whip of the haul rope. Since the year before was my first loading chairs I was paying more attention to the lifts, what I saw next scared me, the haul rope was off the bull wheel and around the tower. The lift took almost 2 hours to rope evac, I would have been about a third of the way up.

If I see anyone jump from the lift, and if I catch them, I will personally beat them about the head and neck with my ski!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I did plenty of stupid things at that age, BUT jumping from a lift could result in a derailment, which would endanger others. If the young kids want a thrill go throw yourself off a 60' kicker all day long, comparatively, jumping off a lift is boring. And in 1988 if you built a little kicker off the the side of a black diamond run/bowl, ski patrol would flatten it quickly, now ski areas built HUGE jumps?!?!!??

[Peter]

Mikes2, I am sure you will appreciate this video
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=0lGY3GW0Lkc

[Snoqualmie guy]

I've seen a guy jump off of Triple 60 at Ski Acres thinking he would hit the unloading ramp, but instead hit the net. It was a stupid thing to do but funny at the same time. His only response when the liftie asked him if he was all right was " you guys need more snow".