Does anyone know of accidents involving doppelmayr or poma or any other manufacturers. All I hear of is YAN YAN and more YAN!
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Lift Accidents
Started by Whistler, Feb 10 2004 04:09 PM
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 04:23 PM
A few years ago the Thunderbird chairlift dropped a chair, but fortunatly for them nobody was that chair at the time it fell. (Heron) So, I guess since nobody was injured it would not be an accident, or does that qualify???
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 04:24 PM
Doesn't the dinasour always pop up or is it just me?
Yeah it is kinda wierd though how YAN is always the center of atenion in this subject when many others have had as many if not more than Yan
Yeah it is kinda wierd though how YAN is always the center of atenion in this subject when many others have had as many if not more than Yan
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 04:33 PM
squaw has had quite a few; exhibition, and of course the tram. Ryan said one was a sli and the other i forget. The tram is garaventa. I cant think of many otehr accidents in the area, but i dont know much. The only other i know of is the yan hsq at sierra where the boy died.
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 04:44 PM
The Mi-Orford @ Orford (Müller) dropped a chair last season.
During the remaining months of the season, everyone was paranoiac because it is a double-double ant they ran the other side. My friend tought I was suicidal because I rode it!
During the remaining months of the season, everyone was paranoiac because it is a double-double ant they ran the other side. My friend tought I was suicidal because I rode it!
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 04:55 PM
Dr Frankenstein, on Feb 10 2004, 07:44 PM, said:
The Mi-Orford @ Orford (Müller) dropped a chair last season.
During the remaining months of the season, everyone was paranoiac because it is a double-double ant they ran the other side. My friend tought I was suicidal because I rode it!
During the remaining months of the season, everyone was paranoiac because it is a double-double ant they ran the other side. My friend tought I was suicidal because I rode it!
the 2 Carlevaro-Savio doubles were replaced by a Chondola this year. It had many problems so far
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 05:09 PM
It's not a Carlevaro. It's a Müller. The Carlevaro (Chaise du Nord) still works.
There's nothing wrong with the chondola.
There's nothing wrong with the chondola.
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 05:48 PM
Dr Frankenstein, on Feb 10 2004, 08:09 PM, said:
There's nothing wrong with the chondola.
There were some problems during the opening weekend. Then in mid January, there were brakes problems. but no major problems at all
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 05:58 PM
maybe ryan knows something about this but a riblet tower at snowmass fell over during either the 70s or 80s...it had a bad foundation.
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 06:10 PM
I also found reading a SAM magazine that the Bi-cable double chairlift at Berthoud Pass in Colorado had its share of accidents. On December 22, 1987 that carrier #5 dropped of the haul ropes and then again on January 10, 1988 carrier #3 slipped back and hit carrier #4 resulting in passenger injury. I guess after several accidents that they closed the lift for good. BTW, this was the most inspected lift in Colorado at the time.
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 06:18 PM
Another CO accident:
Sometime in 1972, the original Lionshead gondola at Vail (a 1967? Bell bi-cable) had a fatal accident. To set the scene for those who never saw the lift, it ran in the same profile that the current Eaglebahn does, but with only seven or eight towers. Those towers were super high. Anyway- about halfway up the line, one cabin lost its grip on the haul rope and rolled back down the track rope, striking the next cabin. The first cabin stayed on the haul rope, the second did not. I forget how many people were involved, but at least one person died.
Sometime in 1972, the original Lionshead gondola at Vail (a 1967? Bell bi-cable) had a fatal accident. To set the scene for those who never saw the lift, it ran in the same profile that the current Eaglebahn does, but with only seven or eight towers. Those towers were super high. Anyway- about halfway up the line, one cabin lost its grip on the haul rope and rolled back down the track rope, striking the next cabin. The first cabin stayed on the haul rope, the second did not. I forget how many people were involved, but at least one person died.
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 06:48 PM
Here is a picture of a Riblet double chairlift that had no survivors. :( Oh wait, there wasn't any people in the first place, it's the Eskimo lift destruction lift test at Winter Park. Picture from SAM magazine.
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 07:10 PM
A hall double chair at Sumuggler's Notch(Mogul Moose lift) has a grip slide last week. 2 people fell 8 feet but no one was hurt. Read about it at Snowjournal.
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 07:33 PM
Ski hill accident under investigation
Skier breaks leg after lift cable snaps
Mar 5, 2003
Jennifer Stone, Staff Writer
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KIRBY - The investigation continues into what caused a ski lift cable to snap, injuring two people and briefly trapping more than 75 skiers on the lift at the Oshawa Ski Club in Kirby Sunday.
Inspectors with the Technical Standards and Safety Authority (TSSA) continued their investigation Tuesday into the accident, which left a nine-year-old Port Hope girl with a broken leg and a ski hill employee with a head gash requiring stitches.
The accident happened just after 11 a.m. Sunday, when a counterweight cable on the Standard Chairlift snapped, causing the tower at the loading area to fall about six feet to a 45-degree angle, says Linda Schaffer, office manager at Oshawa Ski Club.
The Port Hope girl was standing in the loading area of the lift, and was "grazed by the tower coming down," says Ms. Schaffer. The girl, who suffered a broken femur, was taken to Lakeridge Health Oshawa, then transferred to the Hospital for Sick Children.
Hill staff, along with Clarington Emergency Services, worked quickly to rescue the skiers trapped on the lift, says Ms. Schaffer, noting ski club staff are well-trained to deal with such an event.
"Usually, you train and train and train, and never put it into play," she says.
"There was no panic at all. They (staff) break out into teams and the teams gather at each chair going up," she explains, noting teams then throw a rope up to the trapped skiers and slipped a T-bar-like device "under the person's bum. Then, they are manually pulleyed down."
Whitby resident Ron Small was on the chairlift when the accident happened.
"We were in the middle of the chairlift and I don't know what happened - we dropped," he says. "We were about 35 feet in the air and we dropped half that distance in a second ... We bounced, and after a couple or three bounces, it settled."
Mr. Small agrees there was no panic among the stranded skiers, and that the situation was well-handled.
"There were certain ways to do it (rescue the skiers) and they knew how to do it. They got us down really pretty quickly," he says, noting he, his wife Jennifer and daughter Holly, 7, were on the ground within 40 minutes, while son Jonathan, 11, was among the last to be lowered. He was down within an hour of the accident. The chairlift had been inspected by TSSA in December.
"Our lifts are inspected annually, and were given a clean bill of health," says Ms. Schaffer.
The lift will remain closed until the investigation is complete, though other lifts at the hill are still running, she says.
How long the investigation will take is currently unknown, says TSSA spokesman Tom Zach.
"Historically, it can take a very short period of time, or it can drag on," he says, noting a very thorough investigation must take place.
The TSSA does have authority to determine penalties, should any fault be assessed. But it's far too early to guess at any outcome, says Mr. Zach.
"There's no definitive cause that we've come across. We do know that the counterweight failed, but why that happened, we don't know," he says.
The accident is "unexplainable," says Ms. Schaffer.
"In 66 years, we've had nothing like this," she says.
Skier breaks leg after lift cable snaps
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Jennifer Stone, Staff Writer
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KIRBY - The investigation continues into what caused a ski lift cable to snap, injuring two people and briefly trapping more than 75 skiers on the lift at the Oshawa Ski Club in Kirby Sunday.
Inspectors with the Technical Standards and Safety Authority (TSSA) continued their investigation Tuesday into the accident, which left a nine-year-old Port Hope girl with a broken leg and a ski hill employee with a head gash requiring stitches.
The accident happened just after 11 a.m. Sunday, when a counterweight cable on the Standard Chairlift snapped, causing the tower at the loading area to fall about six feet to a 45-degree angle, says Linda Schaffer, office manager at Oshawa Ski Club.
The Port Hope girl was standing in the loading area of the lift, and was "grazed by the tower coming down," says Ms. Schaffer. The girl, who suffered a broken femur, was taken to Lakeridge Health Oshawa, then transferred to the Hospital for Sick Children.
Hill staff, along with Clarington Emergency Services, worked quickly to rescue the skiers trapped on the lift, says Ms. Schaffer, noting ski club staff are well-trained to deal with such an event.
"Usually, you train and train and train, and never put it into play," she says.
"There was no panic at all. They (staff) break out into teams and the teams gather at each chair going up," she explains, noting teams then throw a rope up to the trapped skiers and slipped a T-bar-like device "under the person's bum. Then, they are manually pulleyed down."
Whitby resident Ron Small was on the chairlift when the accident happened.
"We were in the middle of the chairlift and I don't know what happened - we dropped," he says. "We were about 35 feet in the air and we dropped half that distance in a second ... We bounced, and after a couple or three bounces, it settled."
Mr. Small agrees there was no panic among the stranded skiers, and that the situation was well-handled.
"There were certain ways to do it (rescue the skiers) and they knew how to do it. They got us down really pretty quickly," he says, noting he, his wife Jennifer and daughter Holly, 7, were on the ground within 40 minutes, while son Jonathan, 11, was among the last to be lowered. He was down within an hour of the accident. The chairlift had been inspected by TSSA in December.
"Our lifts are inspected annually, and were given a clean bill of health," says Ms. Schaffer.
The lift will remain closed until the investigation is complete, though other lifts at the hill are still running, she says.
How long the investigation will take is currently unknown, says TSSA spokesman Tom Zach.
"Historically, it can take a very short period of time, or it can drag on," he says, noting a very thorough investigation must take place.
The TSSA does have authority to determine penalties, should any fault be assessed. But it's far too early to guess at any outcome, says Mr. Zach.
"There's no definitive cause that we've come across. We do know that the counterweight failed, but why that happened, we don't know," he says.
The accident is "unexplainable," says Ms. Schaffer.
"In 66 years, we've had nothing like this," she says.
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 07:34 PM
200 winched off broken ski lift
From correspondents in Annecy, France
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RESCUE teams have mounted a dramatic operation to reach some 200 skiers stranded in mid-air after a ski lift in the French resort of Samoens broke down.
"The rescue teams climbed up the pylons, attached themselves to the cables and then clambered down to the cabins," said Frederic Marion, commercial director of the Grand Massif ski region, which includes Samoens. "They secured the cabins and then winched people to the ground where teams were waiting for them."
The skiers were then transported down the mountain in helicopters and rescue vehicles. The Vercland ski lift, some 2kms from Samoens village, in Haute-Savoie district, has about 50 cabins carrying up to four people each.
From correspondents in Annecy, France
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RESCUE teams have mounted a dramatic operation to reach some 200 skiers stranded in mid-air after a ski lift in the French resort of Samoens broke down.
"The rescue teams climbed up the pylons, attached themselves to the cables and then clambered down to the cabins," said Frederic Marion, commercial director of the Grand Massif ski region, which includes Samoens. "They secured the cabins and then winched people to the ground where teams were waiting for them."
The skiers were then transported down the mountain in helicopters and rescue vehicles. The Vercland ski lift, some 2kms from Samoens village, in Haute-Savoie district, has about 50 cabins carrying up to four people each.
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 07:35 PM
• A ski lift cable in the Austrian resort of Semmering snapped on Friday night but the damage was discovered before the chairlift was opened, police said on Saturday.
"The cable of the double chair lift snapped and at first sight it seemed to have been cut with a blow torch. The chairs had fallen to the ground," a police spokesman said. "The matter is now in the hands of the regional criminal investigators."
National television station ORF said investigators were still entertaining the possibility of sabotage, although no footprints had been found -- leading them to consider it more likely to have been caused by a technical fault.
Semmering is about an hour's drive south of Vienna in Lower Austria and is therefore a popular ski resort for residents of the capital.
"The cable of the double chair lift snapped and at first sight it seemed to have been cut with a blow torch. The chairs had fallen to the ground," a police spokesman said. "The matter is now in the hands of the regional criminal investigators."
National television station ORF said investigators were still entertaining the possibility of sabotage, although no footprints had been found -- leading them to consider it more likely to have been caused by a technical fault.
Semmering is about an hour's drive south of Vienna in Lower Austria and is therefore a popular ski resort for residents of the capital.
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 07:39 PM
LAC LA BELLE ?Ĭ An out-of-town skier apparently sustained only minor injuries after his chair fell from a chairlift cable at the Mt. Bohemia Ski Hill early Sunday afternoon. Keweenaw Memorial Medical Center Emergency Room personnel reported Sunday night that he had been discharged, but the hospital would not disclose his name or the extent of his injuries.
The skier, a man reportedly from the Chicago area, was still in the chair with the safety bar down when it landed in soft snow after a drop of about eight to 10 feet, according to Dr. Steve Rowe, emergency physician for Keweenaw Memorial Medical Center in Laurium, who happened to be on the same double chairlift, known as Honey Pot Hoist (near the road to Bete Grise), when one of the chairs apparently became disengaged from the cable and fell into the snow.
?ĺI was on the lift. I felt something,?Ĺ Rowe said, ?ĺI asked the attendant at the top (what had happened) ?Ķ I skied right down to it.?Ĺ
Rowe, an expert back-country skier who works for Mt. Bohemia as a skiing advisor and consultant on snow conditions and trail issues, said the ski patrol was in charge of the situation when he arrived at the accident site.
?ĺThey didn?Ĵt need my assistance for any life-threatening injuries,?Ĺ Rowe said. ?ĺThe guy was completely calm ?Ķ It seemed like he came out of it (reportedly) unscathed.?Ĺ
Rowe called the scene of the accident ?ĺthe shortest fall on the whole lift line.?Ĺ It was also fortunate for the skier that the chair landed in soft snow, he said.
Rowe said the patrollers immobilized the injured man on a backboard and transferred him to Mercy Ambulance personnel. He noted that, as a physician, he was looking on very intently during the rescue operation to make sure there were no signs of life-threatening injuries.
?ĺMercy arrived between three and five minutes before he was brought down on the toboggan,?Ĺ Rowe said.
The ambulance took the skier to Keweenaw Memorial Medical Center for x-rays, and he was discharged later Sunday. One ski patrol member accompanied him to the hospital and another delivered his car to him, Rowe said. He added the ski patrollers did an excellent job in assessing the situation and immobilizing the skier on the backboard to protect him from potential spine injury. Immobilizing the injured person is necessary in case of broken bones as well, Rowe noted, but protecting the spine is especially important.
?ĺThe thing you want to prevent is injury that hasn?Ĵt occurred already but is potential with any spine injury,?Ĺ Rowe said. ?ĺI think they do that (assessment and immobilization) really well ?Ķ We?Ĵve got a really good patrol. They?Ĵre really experienced (and have) really good training. They didn?Ĵt ask me to help with any assessment.?Ĺ
Rowe said Scott Steube, Mt. Bohemia?Ĵs ski patrol director, is ?ĺextremely meticulous, organized and prepared.?Ĺ The patrol also has an array of equipment for rescue, Rowe explained, including climbing and rappelling gear and necessary First Aid equipment ?Ĭ anything necessary for stability or extracting a victim from the scene of an accident.
Rowe said that lift was closed as soon as the accident occurred. However, the Mountain Dew triple chairlift is working and the ski hill is open.
?ĺI?Ĵm not sure what?Ĵs going to happen at this point,?Ĺ he said Sunday evening. ?ĺIt?Ĵs going to be inspected, from what I hear from the management.?Ĺ
The State of Michigan Consumer and Industry Services (CIS), Bureau of Commercial Services issued a safety permit for the Mountain Dew triple chairlift on December 29, 2000; and the ski hill officially opened on Dec. 30, 2000.
However, the double chairlift did not receive approval to open until February, 2001
The skier, a man reportedly from the Chicago area, was still in the chair with the safety bar down when it landed in soft snow after a drop of about eight to 10 feet, according to Dr. Steve Rowe, emergency physician for Keweenaw Memorial Medical Center in Laurium, who happened to be on the same double chairlift, known as Honey Pot Hoist (near the road to Bete Grise), when one of the chairs apparently became disengaged from the cable and fell into the snow.
?ĺI was on the lift. I felt something,?Ĺ Rowe said, ?ĺI asked the attendant at the top (what had happened) ?Ķ I skied right down to it.?Ĺ
Rowe, an expert back-country skier who works for Mt. Bohemia as a skiing advisor and consultant on snow conditions and trail issues, said the ski patrol was in charge of the situation when he arrived at the accident site.
?ĺThey didn?Ĵt need my assistance for any life-threatening injuries,?Ĺ Rowe said. ?ĺThe guy was completely calm ?Ķ It seemed like he came out of it (reportedly) unscathed.?Ĺ
Rowe called the scene of the accident ?ĺthe shortest fall on the whole lift line.?Ĺ It was also fortunate for the skier that the chair landed in soft snow, he said.
Rowe said the patrollers immobilized the injured man on a backboard and transferred him to Mercy Ambulance personnel. He noted that, as a physician, he was looking on very intently during the rescue operation to make sure there were no signs of life-threatening injuries.
?ĺMercy arrived between three and five minutes before he was brought down on the toboggan,?Ĺ Rowe said.
The ambulance took the skier to Keweenaw Memorial Medical Center for x-rays, and he was discharged later Sunday. One ski patrol member accompanied him to the hospital and another delivered his car to him, Rowe said. He added the ski patrollers did an excellent job in assessing the situation and immobilizing the skier on the backboard to protect him from potential spine injury. Immobilizing the injured person is necessary in case of broken bones as well, Rowe noted, but protecting the spine is especially important.
?ĺThe thing you want to prevent is injury that hasn?Ĵt occurred already but is potential with any spine injury,?Ĺ Rowe said. ?ĺI think they do that (assessment and immobilization) really well ?Ķ We?Ĵve got a really good patrol. They?Ĵre really experienced (and have) really good training. They didn?Ĵt ask me to help with any assessment.?Ĺ
Rowe said Scott Steube, Mt. Bohemia?Ĵs ski patrol director, is ?ĺextremely meticulous, organized and prepared.?Ĺ The patrol also has an array of equipment for rescue, Rowe explained, including climbing and rappelling gear and necessary First Aid equipment ?Ĭ anything necessary for stability or extracting a victim from the scene of an accident.
Rowe said that lift was closed as soon as the accident occurred. However, the Mountain Dew triple chairlift is working and the ski hill is open.
?ĺI?Ĵm not sure what?Ĵs going to happen at this point,?Ĺ he said Sunday evening. ?ĺIt?Ĵs going to be inspected, from what I hear from the management.?Ĺ
The State of Michigan Consumer and Industry Services (CIS), Bureau of Commercial Services issued a safety permit for the Mountain Dew triple chairlift on December 29, 2000; and the ski hill officially opened on Dec. 30, 2000.
However, the double chairlift did not receive approval to open until February, 2001
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