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#1 nathanvg

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 08:32 AM

The attached files show two chairlift features that I have never seen before. Can someone name and identify the purpose of the two items?

Item 1: a black box under the skier’s butt, specifically under the skier on the seat closest to the middle of the lift.

Item 2: The metal item that connects the frame of the chair to the vertical metal bar. (I think the vertical bar is called a hanger arm, but not sure) The item I’m referring two has two loops that wrap around the frame and has the chair number label on it. Sorry for the lack of technical terms.

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#2 Peter

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 09:19 AM

The Black Box is maybe a weight to keep the chair flat?

Like this on a Doppelmayr Six Pack?

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 11:17 AM

That hanger arm thing is what I think to be Doppelmayr's European design. That black box, since it has a wire, might be a seat heater. (If the lift is not in the USA) The box might be a weight like Skier said.

Here is a lift in the USA at Spanish Peaks, MT that was built using a Doppelmayr European design. (it has that same hanger arm design)

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 11:48 AM

Jesus! Could this be the euro-version of the "weight gate"?

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 07:07 PM

Emax - you crack me up. I'm always looking forward to your comments & reply's..

So- the 'black box' question is likely the counterweight that is keeping the larger carriers (quads, sixes, etc..) from swaying when empty or partially loaded. However- if there are wires, this could be part of the new heating element system that is available on a few Eastern Austrian installations. I had an engineer explain the system last year and I'm in the process of emailing him. It is, though, New Years - so I don't expect an answer immediatly.

Perhaps the 'wires' you notice are plastic 'zap straps' or black bungees used to secure the chair pad to the seat bottoms?

And the plate you are generally refering to in your description are known in North America as "Taco's" - that is they are 'U' shaped and look like a big steel taco. The two loops you see weld to the taco is a simple rappel ring that helps workers pass a rope or caribeaner through should they have to rope evacuate the lift.

I think what LiftKid mentioned about being a European design in North America is somewhat accurate: there are very few, if any of these types of hangers that I know of in Western Canada. Likely a special order when you buy a lift.

#6 nathanvg

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 03:51 PM

This lift is in Europe as you some of you have suggested. Although we have identified the hanger item as being known as a "taco," I don't know why this more complex design is utilized in Europe. Any thoughts?

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 03:53 PM

Everything is more complex in Europe :) Look at Doppelmayr's North American vs European Towerheads. Same thing.
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#8 Lift Dinosaur

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 04:58 PM

Leitner has a design like this they developed in 2004. It is a spring dampener to minimize chair swing on line and in the terminals.
Try this link:

http://www.leitner-lifts.com/attach/Servic...%20v03(web).pdf

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 04:59 PM

Wow! It worked! Sometimes I amaze myself!

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