I really have no Idea how much a ski lift costs but I was wondering does a brand new HSQ really cost that much more then a brand new FGQ. I'm figuring that a HSQ can start around 1.5 million. I also figure that the price of a HSQ is more constant then a FGQ no matter what the length is, because the terminals and drive are the most expensive part so whether the lift is 1000' or 7000' you still have a large cost for the terminals. On a FG I figure the length affects the price a lot. A FG has twice as many Chairs and almost twice as many towers so the length would make the price go up much faster. Given that each HSQ chair has a grip and the HSQ has a ticker haul rope this may not be true. I also know that a FGQ is much cheaper to install on rough terrain.
Given that all else equal would it be in the best interest of the resort to put in a HSQ vs a FGQ given that it the cost is only a little more? Or does it save a resort a lot of money to put in a FGQ?
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Express Quad vs FG Quad Costs
Started by skiPhreak, Dec 08 2006 01:16 PM
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Posted 08 December 2006 - 02:27 PM
One large consideration needs to be what kind of support you have for a detachable lift. You will require competent electrical and mechanical departments to start with. These machines are like race horses- they need alot of pampering to go fast when they are needed to. The parts budget needs to be generous, and time needs to be made for the grip maintenance and NDT. Terminal work can be detailed and needs to be precise. Daily inspections and maintenance need to be carried out without fail. These machines will travel at more than double the speed of a fixed grip (speed goes up in squares) so consequent wear is accelerated.
Actually one might say that all this is really needed for the fixed grip as well, and i would agree, but the detachable just requires a higher level of everything. So if you don't need the speed stay with the fixed grip- if you want it though, be prepared to increase your maint. budget. Both for parts and personel plus training.
PS- there is a lot of marketing horsepower in a detach!
Actually one might say that all this is really needed for the fixed grip as well, and i would agree, but the detachable just requires a higher level of everything. So if you don't need the speed stay with the fixed grip- if you want it though, be prepared to increase your maint. budget. Both for parts and personel plus training.
PS- there is a lot of marketing horsepower in a detach!
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Posted 11 December 2006 - 09:27 AM
skiPhreak, on Dec 8 2006, 02:16 PM, said:
I really have no Idea how much a ski lift costs but I was wondering does a brand new HSQ really cost that much more then a brand new FGQ. I'm figuring that a HSQ can start around 1.5 million. Try double that.
I also figure that the price of a HSQ is more constant then a FGQ no matter what the length is, because the terminals and drive are the most expensive part so whether the lift is 1000' or 7000' you still have a large cost for the terminals. Actually, it is the opposite. HSQ's as they increase in size increase the size of the drive;structural components; electric motor;auxiliary;haul rope; number of grips to a much higher cost factor than a FGQ.
On a FG I figure the length affects the price a lot. A FG has twice as many Chairs and almost twice as many towers so the length would make the price go up much faster. Given that each HSQ chair has a grip and the HSQ has a ticker haul rope this may not be true. I also know that a FGQ is much cheaper to install on rough terrain. While a FG has twice as many grips, the detachable grip costs are more than triple a fixed grip. The FG will not have twice as many towers. Rough terain installation costs would be the same, unless you have a terminal with no road access, then the detach terminal would be more costly to install because it has more components. If you consider the difference between lifts 2500L/500V and 7500L/1500V, the cost of a FGQ will double (+100%) and a HSQ will increase by about 75%.
Given that all else equal would it be in the best interest of the resort to put in a HSQ vs a FGQ given that it the cost is only a little more? Or does it save a resort a lot of money to put in a FGQ?
I also figure that the price of a HSQ is more constant then a FGQ no matter what the length is, because the terminals and drive are the most expensive part so whether the lift is 1000' or 7000' you still have a large cost for the terminals. Actually, it is the opposite. HSQ's as they increase in size increase the size of the drive;structural components; electric motor;auxiliary;haul rope; number of grips to a much higher cost factor than a FGQ.
On a FG I figure the length affects the price a lot. A FG has twice as many Chairs and almost twice as many towers so the length would make the price go up much faster. Given that each HSQ chair has a grip and the HSQ has a ticker haul rope this may not be true. I also know that a FGQ is much cheaper to install on rough terrain. While a FG has twice as many grips, the detachable grip costs are more than triple a fixed grip. The FG will not have twice as many towers. Rough terain installation costs would be the same, unless you have a terminal with no road access, then the detach terminal would be more costly to install because it has more components. If you consider the difference between lifts 2500L/500V and 7500L/1500V, the cost of a FGQ will double (+100%) and a HSQ will increase by about 75%.
Given that all else equal would it be in the best interest of the resort to put in a HSQ vs a FGQ given that it the cost is only a little more? Or does it save a resort a lot of money to put in a FGQ?
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This post has been edited by Lift Dinosaur: 11 December 2006 - 09:30 AM
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