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[Skiing#1]

I know only Alta and Deer Valley don't allow snowboarders at all. What about other ski resorts? How many?

[iceberg210]

Mad River Glen I believe also doesn't allow snowboarders.

[SkiBachelor]

Toas actually does allow snowboarders, but only for the last day of the season.

[truckintr]

Skiing#1, on Dec 3 2006, 02:23 PM, said:

I know only Alta and Deer Valley don't allow snowboarders at all. What about other ski resorts? How many?

Dv does actully allow snowboarders, from the 1st day after they close, the the day before they open.
Yes it's private property, but unless they are causeing harm to the mtn or the lifts, they don't kick them off.
I use to give knuckle draggers rides up Birdseye in the days before we open.
Alta bans them from the lifts, but the actull ski runs are Forest Service land. Alta cannot ban anyone from using public land.

[aug]

SkiBachelor, on Dec 3 2006, 02:53 PM, said:

Toas actually does allow snowboarders, but only for the last day of the season.

Toe ass or Taos Ski Valley????

This post has been edited by aug: 03 December 2006 - 05:56 PM

[SkiBachelor]

Taos, my bad.

[cjb]

If Taos only allows skiers on the last day of the season then they really shouldn't be counted as 'allowing boarders'. I hope that boarders will remember their exclusion and avoid those places if they ever change their policies but I doubt it, look at Park City and Vail. I think both just start letting boarders ride in the last 5 years or so and they do great with them now. It is good that they promote the sport with their parks and events but boarders should be at the resorts that have been supporting them the longest. At least that is where I would be if I was in those regions.

[skiersage]

Mad river glen actually used to allow snowboarders but they had problems where the boarder would push off of the single chairs and they would get caught in the chair guides at the top terminal because of the swing. So they banned them from the single but let them use the three other doubles. Then one day one of the snowboarders chewed out the owner for not letting boarders use the single and that is what got them banned totally.

[Peter]

I think the hundreds of owners in the Mad River Glen Co-op voted not to allow snowboarders. There is no single owner.

[SkiBachelor]

Actually, the person who owns the most shares has the voting right to decided to whether or not to allow snowboards. Even though Mt. Bachelor is owned by Powdr Corp, there are other people that have a stake in the company, but Powdr makes all the decisions on how the resort operates. It just take 50% or more to have almost complete control of a company.

[Peter]

Mad River Glen is different I think. Anyone can buy a share at anytime for $2000. I know that everyone voted to replace the single chair with a new single chair. There is no one person who has power to make big decisions.

[skiersage]

Skier, on Dec 4 2006, 02:42 AM, said:

I think the hundreds of owners in the Mad River Glen Co-op voted not to allow snowboarders. There is no single owner.

Mad river was owned by a single owner at the time that it was decided to not allow snowboarders. The co-op was formed after this.

[Skiing#1]

Are only four resorts (Alta, Deer Valley, Taos and Mad River) not allowing snowboarders? Is that it at all? Or is there any other ski resorts don't allow it?

This post has been edited by Skiing#1: 04 December 2006 - 08:08 AM

[garthd]

How many of these areas are on National Forest? Wouldn't it be illegal to discriminate against a particular group of snow sliders (snowboarders) on public land?

[floridaskier]

Alta's on National Forest land, and as someone mentioned above, snowboarders are allowed to hike Alta, but the resort can ban them from using the lifts

[WBSKI]

I dont think there are any ski areas in Western Canada that dont allow snowboarders. I think its silly banning them because you just lose business

[SkiBachelor]

It seems like they would and some might, but a ski resort like Alta and Deer Valley probably make more money from not allowing them since the skiers that don't like to deal with snowboarders will go to Deer Valley or Alta than another ski resort. It's a niche marketing strategy.

[Callao]

There sure is a strong niche market for ski-only resorts. And now that the ski season has started and all my ski instincts are coming back, I remember how many skiers may still be distraught over having to share the slopes with some of the disrespectful, poor-sport younger snowboarders. Unfortunately, it only takes a few to establish a sorry stereotype.
As for public land, Deer Valley is all private, and Taos is national forest, if I remember right. If resorts can "price-discriminate", they must also be able to discriminate against certain behavior. Snowboarders are not a "protected class" like race, gender, familial status, etc.

[Brian]

There is no uphill traffic allowed at Alta. Sure a splitboarder can load a chair, or monoboarder. As long as your feet are facing forward. Last year we allowed Snowbird emplyoees to ski and ride Alta, it was funny seeing the looks of peoples faces when they saw the boarders at Alta.

[tahoeistruckin]

garthd, on Dec 4 2006, 12:19 PM, said:

How many of these areas are on National Forest? Wouldn't it be illegal to discriminate against a particular group of snow sliders (snowboarders) on public land?

Deer Valley is on private/ leased land, none of which was or has been public lands such as forest service.state, or Blm.