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[Emax]

The superiority of AB is a myth.

[Matt]

Does anybody use ABB drives (note it's different from A-B)? Older models might be called ASEA. I think I saw on a post somewhere there were BBC motors. (BBC merged with ASEA back in the 80's to form ABB).

What about Honeywell controls?

[Emax]

You've got it right. Brown Bavari (controls) and Asea (motors) merged to form Asea Brown Bavari, ABB.

Lots of us use ABB drives - they're quite common in the industry, both DC and AC.

Honeywell makes a wide assortment of great control components (they own Microswitch), but I'm not aware of any large motor drives made by them.

[aug]

sabina , old analog DC drives and ABB digital ac &dc drives , thats what Iam familiar with and use at my ski area

[Matt]

I just ask because we use Honeywell controls and ABB drives, with a lot of older ASEA's still around. Lots of A-B drives too, pretty much every drive conceivable actually. (I'm on a co-op in an oil refinery)

The general opinion appears to be the ABB drives are considered technically superior, but also pricier.

[liftdirector]

I have some older dopp. lifts. I converted them over to ssd drives. They have been great and you cant beat the service. Our automatic pump house is a torrent system with abb and allen bradley parts. So far that combo has been bullet proof.

[liftmech]

We have a few Fincor drives left, ABBs on all our detachables, and a few Base 10s from one of our forum members. The older Fincors are not supported anymore so they are on the chopping block when the funds materialise. The ABBs now have a very detailed touch-screen troubleshooting guide which allows you access to basically the entire drive parameter setup. Of course it's all password-protected, but the option is there. I'm not an electrician, but the screens are simple enough to follow that even I can troubleshoot with them.

[Disco]

Riblet lift with a Yan tension portal tower controlled by a CTEC-Garaventa hydro system - Yan paddle switch type bottom PBO - homemade top PBO - Idec control top motor - and the APU is a '61 slant 6 plymouth with the push button tranny for speed changes.

[Emax]

"The older Fincors are not supported anymore"

Shame on them.

[liftmech]

They're obsolete- so we were told- and they could be rebuilt but for such an exorbitant price that it wasn't worth it.

[Outback]

Disco, on Feb 27 2007, 08:20 AM, said:

Riblet lift with a Yan tension portal tower controlled by a CTEC-Garaventa hydro system - Yan paddle switch type bottom PBO - homemade top PBO - Idec control top motor - and the APU is a '61 slant 6 plymouth with the push button tranny for speed changes.

Disco- post a picture of this!

[Disco]

If I still have employment ... you got it.

[EagleAce]

Both of our Yans have Safetronics systems. These were installed before I started working at Badger Pass. And the Riblet I worked on for one season at Dodge Ridge also had a Safetronics system.

[VH 400 Light]

Emax, on Feb 24 2007, 03:38 PM, said:

Brown Bavari (controls) and Asea (motors) merged to form Asea Brown Bavari, ABB.

BBC (Brown Boveri & cie. (not Bavari)) manufactured motors just like ASEA built controls, i.e. both had similar product ranges. There was no real need to merge because of the competences. I think they merged because of economical thoughts and to share experiences (for example: When they merged, ASEA had longstanding experiences in the thyristor traction control segment whereas BBC was developing a new three-phase current traction system).

In Europe, the BBC drives are actually more common than those manufactured by ASEA.

This post has been edited by VH 400 Light: 09 April 2007 - 01:46 PM

[Emax]

"(not Bavari)"

I stand corrected.

http://www.abb.com/cawp/seitp161/038d05a57...eb0051eef8.aspx

This post has been edited by Emax: 09 April 2007 - 02:08 PM