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#21 KZ

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 03:13 PM

Was bauleys beach originally a double chair?
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Posted 02 February 2004 - 04:28 PM

I bet it probably was.

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 07:59 PM

Yea probably. I will post some pictures of links and belmont tommaorw. You can tell these yan lifts are slightly different then the others. Pretty cool knowing ive ridden their first lifts :)
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Posted 02 February 2004 - 08:11 PM

L/E did all the lift profile & other documentation for us in 94 & 95 when Silverlode and Motherlode were installed.
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Posted 02 February 2004 - 08:11 PM

Do they (Belmont and Links) have the angular carriers built from 1" square tube? Those are the earliest Yan carriers I've seen in Colorado, on lifts built before 1979.
L/E also supplied the towers and return terminal, as well as the profile, for Blackjack in 1996. For some reason we put a Doppelmayr hydraulic tension unit on the return that same year, and not a Yan product. So Blackjack, while not being a completely new Yan lift, still has relatively new Yan parts.
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Posted 02 February 2004 - 08:37 PM

i like our yans...they are smooth running machines! I never have to work on them except for routine maintenance
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Posted 02 February 2004 - 08:38 PM

Ours run well too, since we got rid of our lightning-fried, Whistler ignored base 10 panels.... Oops make that Blackcomb ignored :)
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Posted 02 February 2004 - 08:39 PM

Yep 1"
Tops have been changed to a "3" tower design.
Some older assemblies still still have POMA sheaves (metric).
Baileys Beach was a double.
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Posted 03 February 2004 - 02:54 PM

As to smooth the Yans aren't bumpy chair lifts at all a great ride.

I talked to a couple lift mechs at Alta and they couldn't be more positive on the Yans they simply love them.
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Posted 03 February 2004 - 05:01 PM

Yea, the chairs on belmont and links are the ones of 1" square tube. Most yan doubles in california are of that construction
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Posted 03 February 2004 - 08:54 PM

What exactly is in those Yan Operator boxes? I tried to look in the one at blackcomb, but I could only see a phone and paddles, Also, the old base 10 controls were in the yanbox right, not the operator box? Does anyone have any pics of the Base 10? Thanks :blink:

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 10:26 PM

Ryan, did those lifts have e-brakes when they first opened? Squaw had a problem with Exhibition (rollback) and a few people go hurt.

The history of problems
that plague Squaw Valley

Squaw Valley and its aristocratic Boston-born owner Alex Cushing have been plagued by safety problems for more than a decade.

Depite the ski resort’s prestige as the largest Tahoe ski area and the site of the 1960 Winter Olympics, a state industrial safety board in 1974 ordered fines of $6,700 for safety violations.

Most of the fines were for failing to have operative emergency brakes on the ski lifts.

The resort has had at least seven serious chair lift accidents since the 1960 Olympics, resulting in scores of injuries.

In 1965 Cushing was charged by the state with not complying with safety regulations after a life gave way and several skiers were injured when the chairs began to run backward.

In 1971 a state safety inspector shut down the Gold Coast Chair Lift when he found it was operating without a bull wheel brake. Cushing paid a small fine on that.

And in 1973 an accident on the Exhibition Chair Lift resulted in misdemeanor charges against Squaw Valley.

The biggest fuss over Squaw Valley safety, however, occurred after a 1974 accident on the Exhibition lift in which seven skiers were injured.

The bull wheel emergency brake was found by state inspectors to be badly worn and oil soaked.

Safety violations were also alleged on the KT 22 Gold Coast and Emigrant lifts.
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Posted 04 February 2004 - 07:03 AM

Wow.

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Posted 04 February 2004 - 07:52 AM

It sounds like Squaw's fines and accidents were completely maintenance-related. Oil-soaked e-brake pads? Come on! Someone didn't clean up their mess or fix their leak. And I wonder if the lift without an e-brake (1971) had a problem with that brake, and Cushing told the maintenance crew to run without it...

Our Yans run smothly as well. We keep tweaking them to fix some of the inherent Yan issues, but in general, they're great lifts. As Ryan B has mentioned in earlier posts, many of Yan's problems have been blown out of proportion due to the simple fact that bad news spreads five times faster than good. If a lift runs smoothly for its entire lifespan, it doesn't make headlines.

We have four lifts with the Base 10 low-voltage controls; I will try to get some pictures of them. In general, the drive and the low-voltage cabinets are in the motor room regardless of manufacturer. You can put them in the shack, but then you have to build a bigger shack.
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Posted 04 February 2004 - 03:14 PM

Allan, Your YAN lifts used to have the base 10's right? Do you have any pics?

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Posted 04 February 2004 - 03:31 PM

The Base 10 controls are the round ones with the red and green paddles, right?
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Posted 04 February 2004 - 03:49 PM

No I think they are the old drive controls. Red Mtn recently had them replaced by a new company. Allan probably still has pictures of his Base 10 controls.
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Posted 04 February 2004 - 04:43 PM

I do have our old B10 controls - here they are...

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Posted 04 February 2004 - 04:43 PM

This is what replaced them

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Posted 04 February 2004 - 04:44 PM

The operator huts only have the paddles, bell button, heater and phone... and a chair if they're lucky :)
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