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[Skitheeast]

My home mountain is Labrador in Syracuse New york (about a 1/2 hr south to be precise ;) )

The terrain is ok, they do a good job keeping it up, they painted the chairlifts, added seat pads, new trail signs, etc.

It has 22 trails and 2 Hall Doubles and a Borvig Triple as well as a hall tbar (They are the most normal looking ones right? Without the 40 foot towers? ?

Well I like the place but its only a 700 foot vertical and the chairlift rides are bout 8 minutes or so, and its just not worth it IMO for a 30 second run.

My question is, you people seem to know a TON about these things..

Would it be logical to replace the triple with a hi speed quad? My idea is that the take out the triple and move it next to the double chairlift which services the terrain park as well as some beginner trails (It still goes to the top and is about the same length as the existing triple) and then at a Poma Hi Speeder (They're the fastest?) where the triple was.

My question..

Does it really increase capacity to have a hi speed lift? I mean aside from it being a quad instead of a triple..I mean it is going twice as fast (at least..) but the chairs are also twice as far apart. People at lab think that it'll make the hill too crouded..but I don't really think so.

Does it increase capacity alot? Do you think a hsq would be a good idea?

Thanks!

PS - Is flying mile at Tremblant a doppelmayr or a poma?

This post has been edited by Skitheeast: 27 January 2004 - 07:15 PM

[Eric]

Skitheeast, on Jan 27 2004, 09:58 PM, said:

PS - Is flying mile at Tremblant a doppelmayr or a poma?

It's a 1994-95 Doppelmayr. It replaced a Doppelmayr Triple

[SkiBachelor]

Sorry, but I don't think Labrador needs a high-speed quad anytime soon. The area looks pretty small and only has a vertical of 700. If they dropped in a high-speed quad it would cost them $2.5 to $3 million and about $7000 to operate a month or more. High-speed quads require a lot of maintenance compared to other lifts, why? Because they move a lot faster and there's more things to maintain compared to your average FG lift. Capacity wise, I don't know. The highest capacity for a HSQ today is 2880 people per hour. They can have a low capacity lift though. Is labrador pretty busy during the weekday?

I believe Ryan B posted something about high-speed lifts and that advanges of disavantages of having one.

[KZ]

It doesnt really seem needed unless its really crowded and they make a lot of money. Boreal in tahoe only has a 500 foot vertical drop, but they get the crowds, so the lift is needed, and they can pay for it. It would be cool if they put in a high speed quad, but they dont need it yet.

[edmontonguy]

Rabbit hill sounds similar except their vertical is all of 300 ft and their hall is a 5 minute ride for about a 30 second run. i use the t-bar to avoid the long ride. its only about a 2.5 minute ride

[Skitheeast]

Its the most popular ski area in the area..the lines can get long on the weekends, sometimes as long as the Duncan Express at Tremblant (real long)

[Eric]

Skitheeast, on Jan 28 2004, 07:02 AM, said:

Its the most popular ski area in the area..the lines can get long on the weekends, sometimes as long as the Duncan Express at Tremblant (real long)

hmmm..., The lines are not that long on the Duncan Express

[Skitheeast]

Over martin luther king weekend we waited 30 minutes for it...I haven't been to many big places other than Tremblant, Killington, Whiteface, Gore, so maybe I have a bad idea of what long lift lines are

[SkiBachelor]

How long is the ride time on that lift, because it looks like 7 minutes or less. Replacing that lift with a HSQ would make the ride time 3 minutes and raise your ticket prices. So is saving 3 minutes actually worth paying more for your lift ticket/season pass? That's the big question!

[Eric]

Maybe just install another FG chairlift

[edmontonguy]

Personaly i call a lift line longer that 10 minutes long as where i ski they are usually way shoter

[Kelly]

Sell both doubles. Scrap the platter that parallels the triple. Proceeds of sale go toward - a lift maintenance shop, with head and heat. New tiller(s) on cats. Better compressors for snow making. Pay raise for outside personnel. Down payment for fixed quad.

Please go to Tech section –Fgs Vs. Detach Lifts – and – Lift Speeds – read all posts in the topics for further enlightenment.
Ryan B

[SkiBachelor]

Link: http://www.skilifts.org/nwsforum/index.php...2&hl=detachable

[iceberg210]

I am no expertof course so this is just what i think...

But if you ask me I would keep the one double and upgrade it to a double double. Yeah I know the concept is somewhat outdated but from the description of the resort I think it is the best thing to do for capacity and doubles are cheap.

The triple you could upgrade to a FG quad or a HS triple (we have a few of them here in Utah and they are great). If you did that you may only have to upgrade the top and bottom stations (for the triple) like Alta did when they made Sunnyside a HS triple from a triple).

I personally would keep the T-Bar. (of course I really like T-Bars so) But with that i think your slopes would be extremely crowded but you would get lots of people up the hill and if that is what you want i think this would work and work for a decent price as well.

[Skitheeast]

Scrap both Doubles?

The Double to the left services some blacks (Greens and blues to you people) and never has any line, the double that services the terrain park (Best in the area) and beginner trails, still goes to the top, and has HUGE lines. They do have footers in for a fixed grip quad that they've been trying to put in for 5 years. They originally said HS but who knows. They actually earned enough money off of season passes alone to run the ski resort for the entire SEASON, the money from every thing else could easily by a high speeder and they'd have a monopoly over the other places in the area.