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[Peter]

I think the liftline has been cut for awhile, they just haven't put the lift in yet. There was not a lift there before.

[WBSKI]

Superchairliftfan, first of all, the lift is not going to be a funitel, it is going to be a 3S (three ropes with two being track ropes). The 3S terminals will be built adjacent to the lodges but will not necesarily connect to the lodges (there is a good chance they will though) and the lodges should be staying open except maybe in the summer they will be partially closed. I think the terminal to lodge will be a one summer, it wont take two summers of construction of the lodges so it wont interrupt winter access hopefully.

[Superchairliftfan]

Thanks for the explanation. I thought 3S was just the name of the Kitzbuhel lift! Silly me. I highly doubted they would close the lodges. It was great that you cleared that up.

[jibij]

A couple to add: Chair 5 & Chair 9 at Mammoth are both to be upgraded to HSQs this summer. Some of the footers for the new 9 express lift have already been installed.

[liftmech]

tahoeistruckin, on Jan 13 2007, 03:29 PM, said:

I take it you have not spent much time loading a gaggle of 5 year olds on to a fixed grip begginger chair.( or any other up hill device)
Kids loading a gondola is 100'xs so much easier for them, Than trying to get them to stand at the load board, and pay attention to the chair coming up behind them. A dola, they take the skis off, step up and in. What's so hard about that?

This is why Copper is considering (still, 6 or 7 years into it, nothing definite of course) the K gondola for the Union Creek area. This is also why so many areas have installed Magic Carpets for first-timer lifts. I'm with tahoeistruckin in that it should eliminate many mis-loads. From personal experience, the hardest thing about skiing with my kids is loading and unloading the chairs.

[chasl]

I am not sure who was asking about seeing a proper video of the lift that basically has a Ferris wheel bringing the cabins from the lower part of the station up to the second floor but, if you go to www.galzigbahn.at you can download around a 6 to 6.5 min. video showing the building and teardown of the old Ski Arlburg lift and building the new system showing the system running after completion.

This post has been edited by chasl: 26 January 2007 - 03:34 PM

[skiPhreak]

Summary...

1 Crystal Mountain, Washington DoppelmayrCTEC Triple Northway
2 Tamarack, Idaho DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad
3 Whistler, British Columbia DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Crystal Express
4 Lookout Pass, Idaho Double Northstar
5 Beaver Creek, Colorado DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Rose Bowl
6 Burke Mountain, Vermont Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Willoughby Express
7 Lutsen Mountains, MN: FIS/Upper Eagle Mountain Lift: Riblet Double (used, may be going in this summer)
8 Lutsen Mountains, MN: Caribou Express: Leitner Poma High Speed Six... or...
9 Lutsen Mountains, MN: Bull Run Express: Leitner Poma HSQ
10 Buck Hill, MN: Beginner: Hall Double (used)
11 Indianhead Mountain, MI: Mountain Express: (no brand specified) High Speed Quad
12 Welch Village, MN: Back Bowl: (no brand specified)(no type specified)
13 Keystone, CO: River Run Gondola: (leitner Poma or Doppelmayr CTEC)(6 or 8 person cabins)
14 Steamboat, CO: Christie Express: Leitner Poma High Speed Six
15 Jackson Hole, WY: Tram: Garaventa CTEC?
15 Red Mountain Silverlode with either a FGQ or HSQ Doppelmayr
16 Vail CO Chairs 5, 14 or 10
17 Winter Park CO HSS, Parsenn
18 Wolf Laurel, NC Double
19 Mont Ripley MI
20 Big Sky MT HSQ
21 Holiday Valley NY HSQ or FGQ Doppelmayr Ctec
22 Hunter Mtn NY HSQ to replace snowlite not for sure
23 Whiteface Mtn NY FGT new terrain expansion
24 Deer Valley Dopp Ctec HSQ
25 Breckenridge Lift A Chair 6 and Colorado Super Chair
27 Timberline, Oregon DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Hydro Express
28 Arapahoe Basin, Colorado Leitner-Poma Quad Montezuma Bowl
29 Big Mountain, Montana DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Glacier Chaser Express
30 Big Mountain, Montana Used High Speed Quad Swift Creek Express
31 Burke Mountain, Vermont Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Willoughby Express
32 Cypress Mountain, British Columbia DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Sunrise Express
33 Cypress Mountain, British Columbia Used Quad
34 Lookout Pass, Idaho Used Double Northstar
35 Loon Mountain, New Hampshire DoppelmayrCTEC FGQ Tote Road
36 Loon Mountain, New Hampshire DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Lincoln Express
37 Mad River Glen, Vermont DoppelmayrCTEC Single Single Chair
38 Magic Mountain, Vermont Used Quad Beginner
39 Mount Revelstoke, British Columbia Leitner-Poma
40 Mount Revelstoke, British Columbia Leitner-Poma Gondola
41 Vail, Colorado Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Lionshead Express
42 Snowmass CO HSQ
43 Mt. Baldy Leitner-Poma HSQ Sugarlump Peak
44 Revelstoke Mountain Resort Leitner-Poma HSG
45 Revelstoke Mountain Resort Leitner-Poma HSQ
46 Mammoth Chair 5 HSQ
47 Mammoth Chair 9 HSQ

This post has been edited by skiPhreak: 28 January 2007 - 10:32 AM

[liftmech21]

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26 Brian Head, Giant Steps HSQ

This will not be happening this summer but is slated for the next. However, I can't say much now, but I have some interesting news on what will be happening this summer. Will post as soon as I can. I can say though that there will be a lot happening here this summer!

[WBSKI]

skiPhreak, you did Mt Revelstoke lifts twice on your list.

[skiPhreak]

WBSKI, on Jan 28 2007, 11:10 AM, said:

skiPhreak, you did Mt Revelstoke lifts twice on your list.

They are adding 2 different lifts a gondola and a HSQ

[Peter]

SkiPhreak, many of those lifts are only rumors. Here are the confirmed ones:

1 Arapahoe Basin, Colorado Leitner-Poma Quad Montezuma Bowl
2 Big Mountain, Montana Used High Speed Quad Swift Creek Express
3 Big Mountain, Montana DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Glacier Chaser Express
4 Brian Head, Utah DoppelmayrCTEC ??
5 (Likely) Burke Mountain, Vermont Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Willoughby Express
6 Crystal Mountain, Washington DoppelmayrCTEC Double Northway
7 Cypress Mountain, British Columbia Used Quad Olympic Chair
8 Cypress Mountain, British Columbia DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Sunrise Express
9 Deer Valley, Utah DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad
10 Lookout Pass, Idaho Used Double Northstar
11 Loon Mountain, New Hampshire DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Lincoln Express
12 Loon Mountain, New Hampshire DoppelmayrCTEC Quad Tote Road
13 Mad River Glen, Vermont DoppelmayrCTEC Single Single Chair
14 Magic Mountain, Vermont Used Quad Beginner
15 Mammoth Mountain, California DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Chair 9 Express
16 Mammoth Mountain, California DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Chair 5 Express
17 Mount Baldy, British Columbia Leitner-Poma Quad Sugarlump
18 Mount Revelstoke, British Columbia Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Summit Express
19 Mount Revelstoke, British Columbia Leitner-Poma 8 Passenger Gondola Gondola
20 Red Resort, British Columbia DoppelmayrCTEC Quad Silverlode
21 Snowmass, Colorado Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Elk Meadows Express
22 Timberline, Oregon DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Hydro Express
23 (Likely) Vail, Colorado Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Lionshead Express
24 Winter Park, Colorado Leitner-Poma High Speed Six Timberline Express

This post has been edited by Skier: 28 January 2007 - 10:42 AM

[SkiBachelor]

Where's the Lionhead Express at Vail supposed to be?

I think Silverton Mountain also got approval for it's backside double, but it's probably waiting for the funds to install it.

[Peter]

Another lift to get on Vail Mountain?

Cliff Thompson
June 10, 2005

VAIL - Vail Resorts wants to create a new place for skiers to get on Vail Mountain at the corner of Forest Road and the South Frontage Road, just west of the Vail Marriott Mountain Resort.

It announced plans Thursday to install a high-speed lift there that will connect with Chair 26, the Pride Lift on the Safari Trail, and to build 108 luxury condominiums totaling 195,000 square-feet near the base of the lift. The development will be built by Vail Resorts and managed by Ritz-Carlton.

The new lift, which would be between Lionshead's Chair 19 and the Cascade Village's Chair 20, will bring to five the number of high-speed lifts connecting Vail the town with Vail the mountain. The company said it plans to begin marketing the project in six to 18 months, pending U.S. Forest Service and town of Vail approval, according to Vail Resorts chief executive Adam Aron,.

A permit for a new lift typically takes up to six months, said Dave Ozawa, a Forest Service ranger who oversees activity on Vail Mountain.

"It depends on the degree of controversy. It will require an environmental analysis and public meetings," he said.

By proposing the new lift, the resort company will be increasing the value of already hot slopeside real estate.

All 16 of the nearby Gore Creek Townhomes sold in record time, bringing as much as $1,005 per square foot, Aron said. At the Arrabelle in Lionshead, being built on the old gondola building site, the ski company sold all 67 of the residences.

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[Ontariodude]

Sorry for going off-topic but it looks as if that area must be insanely congested with all those lifts into that village area. Am I correct on this assumption?

Will T. (ontariodude)

[SkiBachelor]

Okay, I remember that lift now.

Thanks Skier.

[poloxskier]

Truely since there is no parking arround where they are proposing the only people using the new lift would be home owners and guests in the area. Much like the Cascade Village lift. I really dont think that it would be any different congestion wise.

[Peter]

What about these plans? Anyone have an update?

Vail Resorts Seeks Lift Changes in Sun Down Bowl
Valley Roundup - 10/17/03
The U.S. Forest Service is soliciting public comments on a request by Vail Resorts to replace Chair 5 in Vail’s Sun Down Bowl with a high-speed quad chairlift and install another quad in Sun Down that would deposit skiers near the top terminal of Chair on Vail’s front side.
The long-term plan, first reported in The Vail Trail in February, would provide an alternative way out of Sun Down if Chair 5 were to malfunction. It also would improve traffic flows for skiers trying to get out of the Back Bowls and back to Lionshead. Perhaps the biggest change would be reduced lift lines for Chair 5 on powder days, when the old fixed-grip triple chair often sees lines in excess of 45 minutes.
“We are only at the scoping part of this process, but until you get it scoped, you don’t know whether or not you can do the project, so it’s kind of silly to start planning if there’s going to be a big bump in the process,” said Brian McCartney, head of mountain operations for Vail.
The bottom terminal of Chair 5 would be moved 10 feet to the west, which would require the removal of some trees, and the bottom terminal of the new Sun Down lift would be located to the west of Chair 5’s bottom terminal. That would require re-grading 1.4 acres and would include impacts to .01 acres of wetlands.
While some skiers will rejoice at the idea of shorter lift lines at Chair 5, others may object to losing their private play ground on the western slopes of Sun Down.
“It’s so hard to please everybody when you talk about skiing Vail, but western Sun Down is generally just under-utilized. There’s going to be those people who used to consider that their private, secret stash who are going to find out they have a few new best friends.”
To comment on the proposed changes, write Cal Wettstein, District Ranger, Holy Cross Ranger District, P.O. Box 190, Minturn, CO 81645, or fax him at (970) 827-9343 by Nov. 17. For more information, call Dave Ozawa, USFS, at (970) 827-5715, or e-mail him at dozawa@fs.fed.us.



Also, wasn't Heavenly going to install a six pack on North Bowl/Olympic?

[tahoeistruckin]

Also, wasn't Heavenly going to install a six pack on North Bowl/Olympic?

Ilive there, and have yet to read/ hear any chatter in town about it

[boardski]

Since people who ski or ride down to the bottom of lift 5 at Vail are basically stuck there if the line is long, it seems as if a HSQ would be an effective lift for that area and get people out of there quicker by increasing capacity and reducing misloads. When people are paying what Vail is asking for a daily ticket (in excess of $80), they should not be waiting in 45 min lines for anything. Not sure if a HSS is being considered but hopefully they will stay with a HSQ. That way the lift will not have to stop and slow so often. As you might be able to tell, I am really starting to dislike HSS lifts (I ski at Mary Jane a lot, that may explain things).

[poloxskier]

Vail seems to be much happier with HSQs at the moment and seems to concider them more than 6-packs. I would highly dobut that they would use a FG in that alignment since it would be a residential access lift, it would probably be more than ample since its not that long of a line. Another plus to this lift though would be that it would help disperse crowds on the mountain since the west side below eagles nest is typicaly one of the least busy areas. But since there is so much uphill capacity at vail already and with there hardly ever being a skier density of 4 people per acre on busy days capacity upgrades especially on sun up I think are a good idea from a guest service stand point.