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[lastchair_44]

DV might do Sultan this summer...it depends on how well we do this winter. The new neighborhood at Deer valley will be at Flagstaff. Tyler said that there will be houses in the meadow off quincy (kinda pisses me off) and there will be houses and condos etc. at the bottom of Northside. The lift that we are definately putting in is going in between Red cloud and Northside. The top terminal will go where the patrol shack at the top of flagstaff is now. Not quite sure where the return is going in at.

[floridaskier]

No, I mean:

$3 million Canadian = $??????? US?

[TomK]

floridaskier, on Jan 28 2004, 04:27 PM, said:

No, I mean:

$3 million Canadian = $??????? US?

3,000,000.00 CAD = 2,252,592.07 USD

That's a todays exchange rate.
Here's a pretty good currency converter website.
http://www.xe.com/ucc/

[floridaskier]

lastchair_44, on Jan 28 2004, 07:05 PM, said:

DV might do Sultan this summer...it depends on how well we do this winter. The new neighborhood at Deer valley will be at Flagstaff. Tyler said that there will be houses in the meadow off quincy (kinda pisses me off) and there will be houses and condos etc. at the bottom of Northside. The lift that we are definately putting in is going in between Red cloud and Northside. The top terminal will go where the patrol shack at the top of flagstaff is now. Not quite sure where the return is going in at.

1.Let's see just how many new lifts we can squeeze on one mountain! This new lift between Red Cloud and Northside...I've seen it on the expansion model thing at Snow PArk, and it doesnt look like it'll go all the way to the patrol shack up at the top of Flagstaff. If it does, it'll get mighty crowded up there with 3 HSQs and another HSQ or FG or whatever unloading in the same spot. It's already pretty bad with Quincy, Ruby, and Northside in the same small area. Also will it come with any terrain expansion? There's not a whole lot

2. If the new Sultan lift is to be built this year, will it follow the same line as the current Sultan lift or will it start lower down in that valley?

For the new houses off Quincy, I wasnt quite sure if they were going in the cleared meadow off Quincy or in the 'Enchanted Forest' above Red Cloud. I hope they go in the 'Enchanted Forest' area, so we can all still cut across the Quincy meadow and get to Ontario Bowl from Quincy :)

[LiftFreak]

What about Mammoth? I thought they would convert the Eagle Express (6pack) to an Gondola (propably the same cabins as the new Village Gondola has)?!? Does anyone have infos about that?

[SkiBachelor]

I thought the six pack was going to stay a HSS for a long time. It's capable of being a gondola, but that's just stupid. They have plans of extending the village gondola in the future and having it terminate where the Eagle Express.

[floridaskier]

Thats just stupid to have a six pack converted to a gondola. Didn't they want to put some family/kids center thing up ther at the top of the Eagle Expres lift?

[liftmech]

floridaskier, on Jan 28 2004, 03:50 PM, said:

:( I always forget about Canadian money on the forum. Oh well. How much is 3 million CDN in US$?

$2,250,000 at $1 CDN= $0.75 USD.

I see someone else already figured this out. It would help if I followed the entire thread before replying, eh?

[KZ]

I think mammoth has some interesting plans. I am not sure, but i am putting together things i have heard:

-Convert Eagle Express to a Gondola (thats why longer terminals and a wider gague were used).
-Continue the Village Gondola to the top of Eagle Express.
-Converth Chair 25 to a six seater using Eagle Express' parts.
-Chair 17 to Express Quad

Of the things here, eagle to a gondola, and extending the village gondola are stupid; same with 25 as a 6. Only time will tell. The only for sure thing is 17 to an express quad.

[CAski]

You can bet that Heavenly is going to do something... they still have at least another 10 million that they promised in upgrades, but it may just go into new on mountain restaurants. They are going to put one at the top of Sky Express and one at the top of the gondola. They also are going to replace the tram at some time when they revamp the California Lodge. I hope they also allocate some money for lifts.

[CAski]

Northstar is finally going to break ground on the first phase of their village this spring. At some point in the very near future, they are going to put a six pack from the base to "mid mountain".

[CAski]

All in all, it has the potential to be a good year for lifts, but alot of the installations I am aware of could take place at any time within the next five years.

[SkiBachelor]

So they are going to replace Arrow with a HSS or that other double lift that's to the left of arrow?

[CAski]

They keep changing their plans... they are going to put the HSS from either the center of the new development above the to-be-built skating rink or somewhere near the current parking lot at the far corner of the resort, to the mid-mountain big springs lodge. It doesn't replace any lift.

[CAski]

You know, they may have taken that out of their plans, as they make no mention on their village website about the new lift. But I have read about it before somewhere and they definitely will need more transportation out of their village. A six-passenger gondola and an extremely slow riblet triple will not carry enough people to keep lines down at the base with this new development. Even if it is not in their plans, they will absolutely need to build a new lift to mid mountain at some point.

[SkiBachelor]

I think it would be a good idea if they replaced their 6 person gondola to a cabriolet. All they would have to do is but on the cabriolet carriers and they should be good to go. However, I don't know how long their gondola is.

[KZ]

If they were to put a hss out of the village, think of the stress arrow and comstock would get. If its not already bad enough, thats twice the people to that location, and the same out of there. They could make arrow a hss, as well as comstock, but that would make for some very crowded slopes. I actually think that the access to the mountain should be kept as it is, or maybe if anything replace Echo with an express quad. Northstar is realling setting themselves up for some long lines and crowded slopes.

[CAski]

I agree. What they want to do is redistribute the crowds along the slopes. As far as I know, and this may have changed, they want to put in that HSS, then they want to add a lift from the top of arrow to the middle of Lookout Road, inbetween Lookout and Pluto Mts. There they will have a new lodge just for members of the Tahoe Mountain Club (It doesn't seem as though this would be a very profitable venture, as only homeowners in the resort can join. There would probably not be enough food sold there. However, their spokesperson assured me that "the lodge will be open to the public for dinner." As if I want to ride up a gondola and two chairlifts at 6 in the evening in winter just to have dinner.) All the above I am pretty confident is true. However, as far as I can tell, they are probably going to replace Pioneer with a HSQ, though I am not certain of this. They might put another lift down the backside from the new lodge. This in itself might be enough to compensate for the increase in crowds, throwing people more towards the pioneer lift than towards Vista. However, Northstar has an even greater mistake in the making. If I remember the plans correctly they showed at the "resort vision" center correctly, they want to put a five-story plus hotel at mid-mountain. That would negate any positive effect of redistributing people on the mountain. This is what appears to be roughly their short term plan, in five years or so. In the next 15 years, however, they will probably put a lift down the backside of Vista towards the cross-country ski area, put a lift up sawtooth ridge, and realign echo to serve better the lift down sawmill flat (the cross-country ski area). They also may put a few other lifts down the backside near the to-be-built lodge. Of course, Northstar seems to be constantly changing its mind on when and where projects will be built, so by now all this information that I have seen from them may be completely false. I certainly hope that some aspects of this plan will not be implimented.

[liftmech]

Northstar seems to exemplify the need to balance the amount of people on the hill with lift capacity. A great many people don't take into account the amount of people a high-speed sixpack can put on the hill. Most HSS lifts have around a 2800-3000 pph capacity, for example, and having several of those up can really crowd a mountain quick.

[KZ]

yep, a good example is squaw and seeing how fast moguls are made on a powderday at squaw.