I thought the plan was to replace Challenger with a gondola as well, and use parts from it to build both the Turkey Bowl lift and lift 16, they would have plenty of towers and would only need 2 new terminals. Also, what ever happened to the plan for a gondola from the Sun Valley lodge up Dollar, along that ridge, and over to River Run. It actually sounded really cool to me
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Skier, on Aug 28 2006, 11:25 AM, said:
I thought the plan was to replace Challenger with a gondola as well, and use parts from it to build both the Turkey Bowl lift and lift 16, they would have plenty of towers and would only need 2 new terminals. Also, what ever happened to the plan for a gondola from the Sun Valley lodge up Dollar, along that ridge, and over to River Run. It actually sounded really cool to me
I would think that was the plan. Using the Challenger parts for lift 16 and turkey bowl was the rumor I heard from around town.
I think the Sun Valley Lodge gondola is still being planned, right??? I haven't heard anything else on it for awhile. Not sure if I like the idea of that gondola, the idea of it going all the way cross town, right in front of downtown Ketchum sounds like a cheesy Disneyland ride! I'd rather them keep the lifts in the mountains, not going through town. It would make the town look more like a amusement park.
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Limelight, on Aug 28 2006, 12:53 PM, said:
I would think that was the plan. Using the Challenger parts for lift 16 and turkey bowl was the rumor I heard from around town.
I think the Sun Valley Lodge gondola is still being planned, right??? I haven't heard anything else on it for awhile. Not sure if I like the idea of that gondola, the idea of it going all the way cross town, right in front of downtown Ketchum sounds like a cheesy Disneyland ride! I'd rather them keep the lifts in the mountains, not going through town. It would make the town look more like a amusement park.
I think the Sun Valley Lodge gondola is still being planned, right??? I haven't heard anything else on it for awhile. Not sure if I like the idea of that gondola, the idea of it going all the way cross town, right in front of downtown Ketchum sounds like a cheesy Disneyland ride! I'd rather them keep the lifts in the mountains, not going through town. It would make the town look more like a amusement park.
Limelight those areas you highlighted on your map would be great but sun valley caters to the rich, so i probably wont see it become new terrain. As for using old parts from challenger and christmas i havent heard about even rumor wise.
the valley-dollar-river run gondola, in my opinion would be a huge waste of money. I also heard that the current ketchum city council is apposed to the idea of having a gondola over the city. thank god there are some people with common sense in this valley.
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the valley-dollar-river run gondola, in my opinion would be a huge waste of money. I also heard that the current ketchum city council is apposed to the idea of having a gondola over the city. thank god there are some people with common sense in this valley.
Yeah the Ketchum city council is really starting to crack down on all of this resort crap as well as other building projects in the hope to help maintain some original feeling of that town. From what I've read, the Ketchum mayor is fed up with the these out of town wealthy developers buying up the land, and tearing down age old buildings and trees to replace them with multi million dollar houses. I agree, a gondola going over the city would look absolutely ridiculous!
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Posted 28 August 2006 - 05:23 PM
The route that was previously discussed would not cross over anything. It would run from Sun Valley up Dollar Mountain, and along the high tension powerlines. Then it would cross over 75 to River Run in the patch of land with nothing.
Here is an article I found...
Sun Valley Co. touts River Run plan
Annexation application could come this spring
A long range plan by Sun Valley Co. to develop a mix of hotel, residential and commercial structures at the River Run base area of Bald Mountain would not follow in the footsteps of the many dense developments at mountain-resort villages throughout the West.
Becky Zimmermann, a planning consultant from Colorado-based Design Workshop, said Sun Valley Co.'s plan to de-velop River Run would establish the area as a "portal" to Ketchum and Bald Mountain. Photo by David N. Seelig
That was the overriding message Wednesday, May 26, as Sun Valley Co. General Manager Wally Huffman and Colorado-
based planning consultant Becky Zimmermann presented details on the company’s master plan to develop River Run and an assortment of other properties in the Ketchum-Sun Valley area.
In a 90-minute presentation at the nexStage Theatre in Ketchum, Huffman and Zimmermann stressed that Sun Valley Co. owner Earl Holding envisions River Run as a mountain village that would complement—not compete with—the established community in central Ketchum.
"Mr. Holding’s vision for this property is something very different," Zimmermann said. "It is not intended to be a destination in itself."
Huffman concurred, stating that he believes Sun Valley Co. should seek to benefit over the long term from its main attraction today: the region’s beauty and open spaces.
"I think our economic future is tied to the idea that less is more," Huffman said.
The presentation Wednesday was essentially an addendum to an April 6 unveiling of Sun Valley Co.’s long-term master plan for developing some 2,800 acres of company land in the Sun Valley region.
The master plan has been characterized as a 50-year blueprint for what Sun Valley Co. properties would look like at full buildout, if local government agencies find a means to approve the plan and lock it in.
"It may be a 50-year plan, it may be an 80-year plan, it may be a 40-year plan," Huffman said.
The initial unveiling of the master plan took place in Sun Valley and focused largely on the company’s properties in and around Sun Valley Village.
The Ketchum presentation was designed to concentrate on Sun Valley Co.’s plans for approximately 160 acres of private land at River Run, immediately southwest of downtown Ketchum.
The land is located in Blaine County but lies within the city of Ketchum’s designated area-of-city-impact boundaries, meaning that the city can ultimately exert control over development in the area.
"In order to develop it, we have to annex it into the city of Ketchum," Huffman said.
Sun Valley Co. in the next month plans to submit a formal application to annex approximately 100 of the 160 acres at River Run into Ketchum, company representatives said.
Specifically, the Sun Valley Co. master plan for River Run includes:
· A new 200-room luxury hotel immediately southeast of the existing River Run Lodge.
· A new 1,500-space parking structure immediately east of the proposed hotel site.
· A park/soccer field on the northern edge of the parcel.
· Approximately 30,000 square feet of retail space.
· Up to 478 new residential units scattered throughout the higher elevations of the property, concentrated mainly at the site of the upper River Run parking lot, west of Third Avenue. Included in the count are approximately 80 employee-housing units that would be reserved for Sun Valley Co. employees.
The River Run plan calls for a total of approximately 700 development units, including all housing units and hotel rooms.
Zimmermann reiterated earlier statements that some base villages recently built in other Rocky Mountain resorts include upwards of 1,000 development units and 150,000 square feet of commercial space.
In addition to the village, the master plan calls for possibly installing a gondola from central Ketchum, near the post office, to a new gondola station east of the River Run Lodge. The company master plan also proposes a gondola from Sun Valley Village to River Run Plaza.
Huffman said a gondola traversing from Sun Valley Village to River Run—deemed a long-term project—would cost approximately $8 million to install.
A more likely near-term project is construction of a new two-stage gondola from River Run to the Lookout Summit of Bald Mountain, with a loading station at Roundhouse restaurant. That project would cost an estimated $10 million, Huffman said.
Huffman said Sun Valley Co. has not determined the costs of implementing the proposed master plan, largely because much of it is conceptual.
Based on current construction costs, the proposed 336 multi-family units at River Run would alone cost in the range of $100 million. A 200-room hotel would cost approximately $80 million.
Huffman said he expects the annexation process to raise "a litany of questions" about the company’s development plans for the River Run site.
At the same time, he said, city officials should consider that the proposed developments at River Run would boost the city’s tax base and create scores of new jobs.
City planners and legislators have said they intend to look closely at the impacts of the annexation but did not voice any specific concerns Wednesday.
Randy Hall, Ketchum City Council president, asked Huffman to outline the company’s development priorities.
The first priority, Huffman said, is construction of a new 100- to 150-room hotel in Sun Valley Village, followed by new multi-family residential developments at River Run. The third priority is construction of a new 9-hole golf course on the company’s "Gun Club" property in Sun Valley.
Low on the priority list, Huffman said, is a new development on approximately 40 acres at the Warm Springs base area of Bald Mountain. Sun Valley Co. has tentatively proposed 175 residential units for the site.
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So SVmech17 and Limelight, the plan does call for the River Run gondola to go to the top and replace Christmas
Here is an article I found...
Sun Valley Co. touts River Run plan
Annexation application could come this spring
A long range plan by Sun Valley Co. to develop a mix of hotel, residential and commercial structures at the River Run base area of Bald Mountain would not follow in the footsteps of the many dense developments at mountain-resort villages throughout the West.
Becky Zimmermann, a planning consultant from Colorado-based Design Workshop, said Sun Valley Co.'s plan to de-velop River Run would establish the area as a "portal" to Ketchum and Bald Mountain. Photo by David N. Seelig
That was the overriding message Wednesday, May 26, as Sun Valley Co. General Manager Wally Huffman and Colorado-
based planning consultant Becky Zimmermann presented details on the company’s master plan to develop River Run and an assortment of other properties in the Ketchum-Sun Valley area.
In a 90-minute presentation at the nexStage Theatre in Ketchum, Huffman and Zimmermann stressed that Sun Valley Co. owner Earl Holding envisions River Run as a mountain village that would complement—not compete with—the established community in central Ketchum.
"Mr. Holding’s vision for this property is something very different," Zimmermann said. "It is not intended to be a destination in itself."
Huffman concurred, stating that he believes Sun Valley Co. should seek to benefit over the long term from its main attraction today: the region’s beauty and open spaces.
"I think our economic future is tied to the idea that less is more," Huffman said.
The presentation Wednesday was essentially an addendum to an April 6 unveiling of Sun Valley Co.’s long-term master plan for developing some 2,800 acres of company land in the Sun Valley region.
The master plan has been characterized as a 50-year blueprint for what Sun Valley Co. properties would look like at full buildout, if local government agencies find a means to approve the plan and lock it in.
"It may be a 50-year plan, it may be an 80-year plan, it may be a 40-year plan," Huffman said.
The initial unveiling of the master plan took place in Sun Valley and focused largely on the company’s properties in and around Sun Valley Village.
The Ketchum presentation was designed to concentrate on Sun Valley Co.’s plans for approximately 160 acres of private land at River Run, immediately southwest of downtown Ketchum.
The land is located in Blaine County but lies within the city of Ketchum’s designated area-of-city-impact boundaries, meaning that the city can ultimately exert control over development in the area.
"In order to develop it, we have to annex it into the city of Ketchum," Huffman said.
Sun Valley Co. in the next month plans to submit a formal application to annex approximately 100 of the 160 acres at River Run into Ketchum, company representatives said.
Specifically, the Sun Valley Co. master plan for River Run includes:
· A new 200-room luxury hotel immediately southeast of the existing River Run Lodge.
· A new 1,500-space parking structure immediately east of the proposed hotel site.
· A park/soccer field on the northern edge of the parcel.
· Approximately 30,000 square feet of retail space.
· Up to 478 new residential units scattered throughout the higher elevations of the property, concentrated mainly at the site of the upper River Run parking lot, west of Third Avenue. Included in the count are approximately 80 employee-housing units that would be reserved for Sun Valley Co. employees.
The River Run plan calls for a total of approximately 700 development units, including all housing units and hotel rooms.
Zimmermann reiterated earlier statements that some base villages recently built in other Rocky Mountain resorts include upwards of 1,000 development units and 150,000 square feet of commercial space.
In addition to the village, the master plan calls for possibly installing a gondola from central Ketchum, near the post office, to a new gondola station east of the River Run Lodge. The company master plan also proposes a gondola from Sun Valley Village to River Run Plaza.
Huffman said a gondola traversing from Sun Valley Village to River Run—deemed a long-term project—would cost approximately $8 million to install.
A more likely near-term project is construction of a new two-stage gondola from River Run to the Lookout Summit of Bald Mountain, with a loading station at Roundhouse restaurant. That project would cost an estimated $10 million, Huffman said.
Huffman said Sun Valley Co. has not determined the costs of implementing the proposed master plan, largely because much of it is conceptual.
Based on current construction costs, the proposed 336 multi-family units at River Run would alone cost in the range of $100 million. A 200-room hotel would cost approximately $80 million.
Huffman said he expects the annexation process to raise "a litany of questions" about the company’s development plans for the River Run site.
At the same time, he said, city officials should consider that the proposed developments at River Run would boost the city’s tax base and create scores of new jobs.
City planners and legislators have said they intend to look closely at the impacts of the annexation but did not voice any specific concerns Wednesday.
Randy Hall, Ketchum City Council president, asked Huffman to outline the company’s development priorities.
The first priority, Huffman said, is construction of a new 100- to 150-room hotel in Sun Valley Village, followed by new multi-family residential developments at River Run. The third priority is construction of a new 9-hole golf course on the company’s "Gun Club" property in Sun Valley.
Low on the priority list, Huffman said, is a new development on approximately 40 acres at the Warm Springs base area of Bald Mountain. Sun Valley Co. has tentatively proposed 175 residential units for the site.
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Posted 28 August 2006 - 05:46 PM
I guess i hadent seen that article before. It just shows again that nobody knows when this river run gondola will be, if ever installed. I still think id rather not have the gondola between sun vally- dollar- river run. I think it would look tacky. Plus i still think ketchum will not allow it to be built. As for the new hotels planned for river run, i think its a toss up if ketchum approves it or not.
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Posted 28 August 2006 - 05:49 PM
I also just noticed that the master plan eliminates the Exhibition lift.
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Skier, on Aug 28 2006, 07:49 PM, said:
I also just noticed that the master plan eliminates the Exhibition lift.
well if you have a gondola going up to round house why would you need it? plus its in the way of the gondola so it will come out the same time the gondola goes in.
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Posted 28 August 2006 - 08:08 PM
Well I knew the Gondola path was going to be in front of the town, didn't know it would follow that path wich does take it about a half mile from downtown itself. Still, like I said, its just a bad idea.
I think the Exhibition lift only ran for a couple hours a day anyway? The last two seasons I noticed it will run in the morning then shut down for the rest of the day. Is that due to lack of traffic?
I think the Exhibition lift only ran for a couple hours a day anyway? The last two seasons I noticed it will run in the morning then shut down for the rest of the day. Is that due to lack of traffic?
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Yeah for some reason they have this weird schedule where they run Exhibition for a few hours in the morning, shut it down and run Sunnyside for the afternoon. By the way, they have a brand new website at sunvalley.com
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Posted 29 August 2006 - 03:23 PM
Skier, on Aug 28 2006, 10:56 PM, said:
Yeah for some reason they have this weird schedule where they run Exhibition for a few hours in the morning, shut it down and run Sunnyside for the afternoon. By the way, they have a brand new website at sunvalley.com
They run exhibition in the morning for easy access to seatle ridge via gun tower lane. Then they run sunnyside so if skiers get caught on the river run side and need to get to warm springs. All lifts to the top of the mt close at 3:45 and sunnyside closes at 4.
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Yeah, I once got stuck at the bottom of Flying Squirrel after 4 and needed to get back to River Run. The lift op was nice and let me on.
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Posted 29 August 2006 - 08:52 PM
Skier, on Aug 29 2006, 06:44 PM, said:
Yeah, I once got stuck at the bottom of Flying Squirrel after 4 and needed to get back to River Run. The lift op was nice and let me on.
if that was this winter then i know the lift operator at the bottom (my old supervisor) and i was most likely the guy up top, if it was a guy. The few days we ran it i was usually there.
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SVmech17, on Aug 28 2006, 05:58 PM, said:
Limelight those areas you highlighted on your map would be great but sun valley caters to the rich, so i probably wont see it become new terrain.
Well that settles it then, we'll just have to buy out the Sun Valley Company. How much do you have in your savings?
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Limelight, on Aug 30 2006, 06:20 PM, said:
Well that settles it then, we'll just have to buy out the Sun Valley Company. How much do you have in your savings?
ive got two nickles and a dime in my pocket, so i think were short a couple million
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