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#1 skierdude9450

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 08:24 PM

Everyone knows of the Quicksilver, but I have some pictures of Quicksilver and other lifts that have double loading. They are both in France. If anyone else has pics or info on double loading lifts, please post.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 08:45 PM

That is cool! So basicly theres a switcher that sends out the chairs on either conveyor system?, why would that be used though, surely hourly capacity couldnt be increased? I guess the chairs load slower so thats a benefit.

That is interesting, was that a test thing and do they still make that type of lift?

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 09:02 PM

Even though the Quicksilver lift only has an hourly capacity of 3000 right now, it is capable of moving 3600 pph if more carriers are added. However, because this lift services beginner terrain rather than more advanced, I doubt Breckenridge will bring the capacity up to its designed level. It takes beginner skiers more time to get to the loading zone since they are used to loading a lift and this would lead to more stops.
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 03:19 PM

View PostSkiBachelor, on Mar 9 2006, 10:02 PM, said:

Even though the Quicksilver lift only has an hourly capacity of 3000 right now, it is capable of moving 3600 pph if more carriers are added. However, because this lift services beginner terrain rather than more advanced, I doubt Breckenridge will bring the capacity up to its designed level. It takes beginner skiers more time to get to the loading zone since they are used to loading a lift and this would lead to more stops.

Add more chairs? :unsure: They're already quite close together. They also never seem to run it at 1100 fpm even though they say it can. Imagine what its capabilities would be if they had say, 115 chairs instead of 107, and ran it at 1100 fpm. (Keep in mind that the lift is only 5577 feet long.) But, that would lead it to stopping even more often because getting 6 beginners on and off a chair is quite hard. So, I guess that it would still have decreased capacity from its potential because they would be stopping it every three minutes. (Which sometimes is still the truth because they slow it for all of the downloaders. :cursing:)

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 03:48 PM

Why would people download from the Quicksilver lift? That makes no sense to me since that's the beginner area and they had to get up the mountain some how.
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 04:13 PM

The key factor with the DLS, especially from a beginners standpoint, is that you have a 12 second loading interval between carriers on each of the contours. Also, because it is loaded on the contour, they have an additional 6 seconds to "get their act together" before the carrier accelerates form the terminal.
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Posted 11 March 2006 - 03:02 AM

I think the downloading of people would be for the lodge near the top of the lift. If they are moving personnel around or going to get more supplies, I can see the need for downloaders.
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Posted 11 March 2006 - 03:36 PM

View PostJonni, on Mar 11 2006, 04:02 AM, said:

I think the downloading of people would be for the lodge near the top of the lift. If they are moving personnel around or going to get more supplies, I can see the need for downloaders.

Also, people download just because they're tired. They don't feel like skiing even though it is very easy terrain. The trails are very crowded and keep in mind, they're beginners.
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Posted 11 March 2006 - 06:01 PM

View PostJonni, on Mar 11 2006, 04:02 AM, said:

I think the downloading of people would be for the lodge near the top of the lift. If they are moving personnel around or going to get more supplies, I can see the need for downloaders.


the restrauant at the top of quick uses a cat for supplies and the employees ride up before and after the lift is open to public. Ski school has a ski run w/ a huge carpet lift next to Quicksilver that they use to teach snowboarding. The students ride the lift up, "learn" to snowboard, then ride the lift down. I do not agree with this at all. If I paid good $$$ for my kid to learn to snowboard, I'd be pissed to see him riding the lift down and not snowboarding. We also get our fair share of tired skiers or skiers who broke their equipment. They are beginners!

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Posted 11 March 2006 - 06:15 PM

You guys are getting :offtopic: but anyway I have some more pics of double loading lifts, these are Doppelmayrs.

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Posted 29 April 2006 - 11:55 AM

I believe the first chairlift to be fitted with double loading was the Cascades chair in Val Thorens (France). There's more on the system here, in French.

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Posted 29 April 2006 - 06:51 PM

That's some cool stuff. Good job.
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