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[SidBurn]

If so, post them here

[spunkyskier01]

http://www.colorados...s/snowmass.html

[Kicking Horse]

Yep

Yes Cameron you can use the pictures on the site.

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This post has been edited by Kicking Horse: 16 February 2006 - 07:14 PM

[Allan]

I have a question! Why does it have detachable grips?

[edmontonguy]

That's an interesting lift, if i am seeing it correctly, it has highspeed grips? and it has 3 sets of cabins? It's fixed grip, so why the high speed grips, and secondly, how does the timing work if there are three sets of cabins?

[SkiBachelor]

I believe LiftDinosaur mentioned in the past that the reason why it has detachable grips is because it was going to take too long to get the Leitner Pulse grips for the lift before it was supposed to open. The bullwheels had a special groove cut for the detachable grips to allow them go around the bullhweel. I guess it's fair to say that this is the only lift in the world that has detachable grips on a non detachable lift.

[Kicking Horse]

I think there are 4 sets of cains with 3 per set. Basicly when one set is in the terminal the whole line slows down. I will shot video of this when i go out there in March. It's pretty damn cool.

[coskibum]

read lift dino's remarks on that here:

http://www.colorados...topic.php?t=270

[skier2]

Is the lift really short? I would have thnought that Snowmass would have put in a cabriolet, not a pulse gondola.

[Lift Dinosaur]

skier2, on Feb 17 2006, 11:49 AM, said:

Is the lift really short? I would have thnought that Snowmass would have put in a cabriolet, not a pulse gondola.

1. Yes, the lift is very short -@1100'. It's intent is to connect the soon to be developed base area to the Snowmass Mall, which is at the top terminal.
2. Your are discussing apples- "a cabriolet" and oranges- "a pulse gondola". A cabriolet is a cabin design- open on the upper section and of the standup variety; a gondola is also a cabin design- enclosed and generally a sitdown, but some also have a combination of standing and sitting; and a "pulse" uses fixed carrier locations which slow for the terminals and then speed up (to 1000 fpm) once leaving the stations.
3. Originally, the lift was to be a pulse cabriolet (cabins generally made by Gangloff), but the price on the Sigma gondola cabins wasn't that far off, so Snowmass opted for the enclosed cabins.
4. When you mentioned "cabriolet", were you thinking like the one at the Canyons? That is a detachable and the terminal size was prohibitive for the area Snowmass had to work with.
Hope this helps!

[Zage]

SkiBachelor, on Feb 16 2006, 08:46 PM, said:

I guess it's fair to say that this is the only lift in the world that has detachable grips on a non detachable lift.

Not really, there is a jig-back funitel in France and it has detachable grips and it is a non-detachable lift. Plus there are some more fixed pulse gondola's with detachable grips in the world. So really, there are other non-detachable lifts with detachable grips.

[SkiBachelor]

Oh yea, I forgot about that weird one in France that's like a funitel but not.

[Yaoma]

rode on a poma pulse (cave tour) on the G.J. tour by the Hotel Colorado????

[skiersage]

http://www.skilifts.org/nwsforum/index.php...pe=post&id=4161
Is it just me or do the Pininfarina Diamond cabins look like the Leitner POMA Diamond cabins?
http://www.skilifts.org/nwsforum/index.php...pe=post&id=4537

[SkiBachelor]

That's because they are the same cabins. Leitner Poma owns Pininfarina just like Doppelmayr/Garaventa own CWA. I'm pretty sure L-P owns Pininfarina.

[Lift Dinosaur]

Leitner does not own Pininfarina - they are an Italian design firm. They do own SIGMA, and Pininfarina was the designer of the Diamond cabin for SIGMA.

[ski9600]

SkiBachelor, on Feb 19 2006, 09:33 PM, said:

That's because they are the same cabins. Leitner Poma owns Pininfarina just like Doppelmayr/Garaventa own CWA. I'm pretty sure L-P owns Pininfarina.

I appears to me that Pininfarina is separate from L-P. They have a long history in automotive design and manufacturing, many times designing prototypes for the likes of Ferrari, Alfa Romeo, and even Corvette. I think probably L-P contracted with them to design and manufacture the cabins. More here: http://www.pininfari...index.php?sot=2

[liftmech]

Yaoma, on Feb 19 2006, 07:21 PM, said:

rode on a poma pulse (cave tour) on the G.J. tour by the Hotel Colorado????

You must be talking about the Iron Mountain Tramway, with the orange cabins.

(side note: the GJ tour you're talking about- was that at the roundtable last March?)

[tcs]

Yaoma, on Feb 19 2006, 07:21 PM, said:

rode on a poma pulse (cave tour) on the G.J. tour by the Hotel Colorado????

I'm confused. G.J. would be Grand Junction. Might you have ridden the gondola in Glenwood Springs?