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[ski89]

I am going to purchase an old platterlift and set it up on my hill. 1600x300. I have been looking at a f-12 from Knapp. Does anyone know what an f-12 is? Where does one obtain this info? Is it detachable? Can anyone suggest likely candidates for assistance with design and installation in NH?

This post has been edited by ski89: 18 January 2006 - 08:01 PM

[SkiBachelor]

Hi ski89 and welcome to the forum.

I'm not sure if you would need to hire an engineer or not if your planning on installing a surface lift but I'm some of the other forum members can help you out with that information. I would say it would probably be a good idea if you did since it would make the job a lot easier.

If you're looking for someone to install the lift, there are three companies to choose from these days I believe. Outback Construction, Mad River Lifts and Skilifts Unlimited. Craig Loop (member name: outback), who is part owner of Outback Construction is a member on this site and he can probably tell you everything you need to do and the costs that are involved with installing a surface lift.

Cameron

[ski89]

I was thinking that I would hire someone to do the design and was hoping to be able to install it myself. I am picturing the need to have someone install the cable. Never having installed one before I expect to need at a minimum some guidance. Maybe it could become an internet project on this forum?

[coskibum]

for the cable i would recommend a double knot, those tend to hold better

[ski89]

[liftmech]

An F-12 is a Poma fixed platter. You will definitely want some actual on-site guidance and help when you splice the rope. Even if you construct it yourself you'll need a surveyor to lay out the line and an engineer to tell you where to dig the holes for the towers. You'll need an electrician to hook up the drive end. Hooking up the controls isn't difficult if you have a detailed schematic and written notes on what goes where, but again some guidance wouldn't be a bad idea. Finally, is this going to be public or private? You'll need insurance if it is going to be public, i.e. you sell tickets to ride it.

[Lift Kid]

Get help!!!!! You'll need it. Those lifts may be pretty simple but tough to install!

[ski89]

Thanks Liftmech.

I spent the weekend working on the lift line. Such a hike from top to bottom. I have a straight line cut that still needs to be widened. I was thinking about 20' clear might be sufficient. 10' for the lift and 10' to run a br160 or 180 down beside. I have a total station I was going to set up next and create a straight line and gather enough info. to be able to plot the slope. I plan to hire an engineer to layout the pole locations etc.. I have talked to the state about permitting and the power company about 3 phase. I'm sure an electrician to tie in the 3 phase is necessary. I have the equipment to clear, grub and level the site and the ability to construct forms and set bolts and towers. I can't imagine I could lay and splice the cable although I can tie a square knot, therefore that will most likely be subbed as well. What else do you know about the f-12? do you know where I can find pics of one? Do you know how much upgrading may be necessary? It was suggested that I rebuild the motor and I am wondering who does that and how much? The facility will be private and only open to friends, family and those who help to build it.

[coskibum]

this is a fixed poma platter:

[ski89]

thanks

[Lift Dinosaur]

Contact Steve Dugdale, Parts Manager at Leitner-Poma of America (970) 241-4442 and see if he can get you a copy of the Maintenance Manual. If you can tell him the year and original location of the installation, that would expedite the request. You will also need him for future spare parts for sticks, sheaves, etc.
Get all the information regarding maintenance from the original owner - they may have had the electric motor rebuilt previously. Any reputable motor shop should be able to rebuild it.
Drain, flush, and refill the gear reducer before installation - easier than when it is in the air.
Good luck-

[ski89]

O.k. the poma platterpull left alot to desire, so I bought a hall 500, 72 vintage. Needs new cable. Anyone recommend a supplier and someone to splice in NH? Anyone recommend Tree cutting outfit?