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Yan Counterweight Designs
Started by liftmech, Jan 11 2004 08:19 PM
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Posted 11 January 2004 - 08:19 PM
We all know that Yan liked to do things differently, and one of his favourite things was to hide the counterweight. Check this out, from the bottom of H-lift. Notice where the CWT rope is routed... Anyone else have a weird CWT location?
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Posted 12 January 2004 - 06:54 AM
I didnt get a picture, but on Chair 23 at mammoth, the rope goes over a run and the counterweight is located within the trees. Almost all the others ive seen are normal though.
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 04:46 AM
That design does make sense though, it gets the counterweight out of the base area. Keystone has a similar design on the Argentine. The counterweight exits out the front of the terminal and is a long ways away in the trees near the base of the Peru.
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 04:59 AM
Pack 1 and Discovery shared a post for their counterweights, as I recall, and it was also off in the trees. I have noticed since I opened this topic that the only odd routings of CWT ropes have been in areas where the is no room for a traditionally sited counterweight.
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Posted 06 January 2005 - 07:37 PM
John, is A also a design thats kinda wierd? It's been a while since I've been to copper but I seem to remember it being somewhat unique.
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Posted 06 January 2005 - 09:48 PM
Yes, it is also hidden off in the trees. The counterweight rope is routed through the back leg of the terminal and makes an approximate 120-degree bend to the counterweight tube.
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Posted 12 December 2005 - 07:23 PM
liftmech, on Dec 17 2004, 03:59 AM, said:
Pack 1 and Discovery shared a post for their counterweights, as I recall, and it was also off in the trees. I have noticed since I opened this topic that the only odd routings of CWT ropes have been in areas where the is no room for a traditionally sited counterweight.
I think that if there was a shared counterweight it would be Discovery/Checkerboard and Pony Express when there was the second lift there, I think it was another double but I can't be sure. Since they probably were of similar length and loading I would think that would be a more likely combination. I'll check it out when I get a chance and see what I can find out.
This post has been edited by poloxskier: 12 December 2005 - 07:29 PM
-Bryan
Theres a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
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"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
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Posted 13 December 2005 - 05:16 PM
poloxskier, on Dec 17 2004, 05:46 AM, said:
That design does make sense though, it gets the counterweight out of the base area. Keystone has a similar design on the Argentine. The counterweight exits out the front of the terminal and is a long ways away in the trees near the base of the Peru.
Keystone also had 2 lifts built in 1976 - Go Devil (Then Pack 1, then gone) and Checkerboard which had the counterweights remotely located like H and A lift at Copper. This was because the area did not have room for a traditional cwt location. After that, YAN came up with the enclosed cwt inside the rear leg like old E and S at Copper.
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Posted 13 December 2005 - 06:06 PM
Allan, on Dec 13 2005, 06:49 PM, said:
When did hydraulic tensioning start being used in lifts? I would think it would be easier than running cwt ropes so far away!
First lift I installed with hydro/pneumatic tension was a 1983 YAN. First one with hydraulic tensioning was 1985.
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Posted 15 December 2005 - 04:20 PM
Forgot that one - how could anyone forget "Charlie Uno". That was 1979.
The 1985 was A-1 or Resolution - POMA Alpha Drive.
The 1985 was A-1 or Resolution - POMA Alpha Drive.
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Posted 15 December 2005 - 06:28 PM
liftmech, on Dec 17 2004, 03:59 AM, said:
Pack 1 and Discovery shared a post for their counterweights, as I recall, and it was also off in the trees. I have noticed since I opened this topic that the only odd routings of CWT ropes have been in areas where the is no room for a traditionally sited counterweight.
I actualy found out today that the counterweights for pac I and discovery were separate but were in the same location in the trees. The tower from pac I has been removed but the counterweight is still in the trees.
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Theres a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
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"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
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Posted 15 December 2005 - 07:14 PM
liftmech, on Jan 11 2004, 11:19 PM, said:
We all know that Yan liked to do things differently, and one of his favourite things was to hide the counterweight. Check this out, from the bottom of H-lift. Notice where the CWT rope is routed... Anyone else have a weird CWT location?
we have almost the same set up on our Devil's Fiddle Quad
but those counterweight chains have to take the cake...
nothing nice about them
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Posted 18 December 2005 - 05:26 PM
i dont know how common this was, but at west mountain, outside of glens falls new york
their old riblet centerpole double chair, the whole terminal was set on rail road tracks, and the counterweight pulled the terminal backwards. i alwayse figured this was common, but i have yet to see this set up anyware else.
p.s. the terminal has been replaced 2 years ago with a new phumatic set up done bye c-tec.
their old riblet centerpole double chair, the whole terminal was set on rail road tracks, and the counterweight pulled the terminal backwards. i alwayse figured this was common, but i have yet to see this set up anyware else.
p.s. the terminal has been replaced 2 years ago with a new phumatic set up done bye c-tec.
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