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[SkiBachelor]

Leitner doesn't call its cake terminals Doppelcakes. :)

Your best bet is to contact L-P of America and ask them.

[WBSKI]

my bad, two separate questions, what is the leitner cake called AND what is the doppelcake design called.

[edmontonguy]

The Doppelcake design is a design that i do not think we have come upon it's proper name yet. It's either called the UNI terminal as it was the terminal that pre-dated the UNI-M however the true name is still up in the air. These terminals are handy to call doppelcakes as they have the minimal returnstations similar to the Yancake.

[liftmech]

I think we (as in the forum members at large) coined the Doppelcake term. I don't know where the Yancake term came from, but it is an apt description. The Yan terminals were either the Yan 1000 or Yan 1200 depending upon the gearbox model. Am I right, Bud?

That Alpha/Delta combo is certainly unique. Anyone know where that is? I don't agree with Brad's writeup, though- the motor room in that terminal takes up much more space than the Alpha normally does and would actually reduce cariage travel.

[poloxskier]

That is the East River lift at CB. Does anyone have a pic of a standard Delta model Drive/Tension terminal

[edmontonguy]

The Yancake was coined way back in the days of this forum i think. It's definately been around longer than the doppelcake term. I do believe we've been calling Yan terminals Cakes since at least the days of NW-Skilifts.

[skiersage]

With regards to the east river lift, here is the topic where the answer is located.

like mentioned earlier, the yan HSQ terminal was the one to start the"cake" thing. it started out as yancake and went to doppelcake when someone found out that there are yan look-a-likes made by dopppelmayr. poma and leitner have these too but they are not as boxy as the other ones. just look at such lifts like the american flyer at copper and the quickdraw at sol vista.

[phillybluntz]

WBSKI, on Oct 23 2005, 08:48 PM, said:

my bad, two separate questions, what is the leitner cake called AND what is the doppelcake design called.

Nice shots of Kimberley's HSQ, Do they actually call it the Doppelcake?

[edmontonguy]

No, the official name isn't very clear, however it might be a type of UNI design. The doppelcake is just a quick way to reference the flat return terminal.

[Lift Dinosaur]

phillybluntz, on Oct 25 2005, 01:52 PM, said:

Nice shots of Kimberley's HSQ, Do they actually call it the Doppelcake?

The lift is called NorthStar Express.

[Lift Dinosaur]

WBSKI, on Oct 23 2005, 10:30 PM, said:

Whats the leitner HSQ design called?


And the Doppelcake design?
http://www.skilifts.org/nwsforum/index.php...ype=post&id=991

Leitner has 2 different designs in North America. 1998 version was the "Automatic" series, which had the synchronization tires outboard and the 1999-2001 version was the "Plan de Gralba" series (named after the ski area in Italy that prototyped the design) that had the tires inboard. Both were available in Compact - 25 tire or Standard - 30 tire lengths. The terminal types were "High Structure" (like the top of Kimberley) or the "Low Structure" (like the bottom of Kimberley). The main reasons for choosing Low Structures were visual impact, space constraints, and cost.
Europeans also have different philosophies regarding their terminals - they generally don't run big diesel engines as auxillary drives (they are more likely to have gen-sets to power everything electrically) and they don't need 1000 sq. ft. of enclosed motor room to cover their equipment.

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[Jonni]

The pancake design may be a pain to keep de-iced as well as keep the snow off of the bullwheel, but I still love the fact that you can see parts of the working machinery in the bottom terminal of the above lift.

[spunkyskier01]

i do have to say, altho they may be a pain to work on, (if i ever work on lifts i may change my mind) but i do like the basic look of them, its a very simple look, very pleasing to the eye. btw, if you would like to see just how a detachable works, the adiroundack express at gore is one of the best places to see how it happens.

[liftmech]

poloxskier, on Oct 24 2005, 07:52 PM, said:

That is the East River lift at CB. Does anyone have a pic of a standard Delta model Drive/Tension terminal

Bottom of L-lift at Copper.
http://www.skilifts.org/nwsforum/index.php...pe=post&id=6392

It's kind of hard to see in this photo, but the motor room does not rol back and forth on the carriage I-beams. Rather, the motor room is fixed to the beams and they roll on the fixed terminal structure.

[WBSKI]

I contacted Doppelmayr on the terminal name of the Doppelcake at Big White (Ridge Rocket Express)

Heres the info:

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This terminal design is called the "ET" for "Etudes de Transports" (the
old name of the Doppelmayr company in France that developed the terminal).

This was the first Doppelmayr detachable with two legs and PTO driven
conveyors.

[liftmech]

Another distinctive fixed-grip terminal- the CTEC Enterprise. This is also the same as most Thiokol drive terminals.

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