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#1 WBSKI

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 03:01 PM

Hey guys, i have always heard of different designs of lifts (Omega-3, Uni-G ect) but have never seen actual pictures of them really. So i have made this topic so people can post the different types of lifts for those that dont know about this stuff.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 05:28 PM

I think there was a topic started about this a few months ago by Erik Berg.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 06:32 PM

Here are pictures of Omega high speed lifts by Leitner Poma. The ones on the left are drive stations. As far as I know the far left design of drive station has been replaced by the one towards the middle . The station in the middle right is an example of an unmodified Omega terminal.

On the far right is a Challenger/Competition terminal. I'm not sure of the correct name.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 06:55 PM

In SAM, the Mercury Express is listed as being a Challenger, while the Bridger Gondola at Jackson Hole is listed as being a Competition terminal, but both are the exact same design except that the Competition is a bigger terminal.
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 07:43 PM

Ok, im starting to get an idea, so Top of The World at LL is a older style Omega

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 10:23 PM

wbski have a look @ this topic.

http://www.skilifts....?showtopic=2100
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 06:18 AM

That topic is really great! How about fixed grips from the 70s and 80s, did they have specific styles or were they custom built or did each company only have one style?

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Posted 20 October 2005 - 01:28 PM

Poma was the only company to have a distinct style for their FG lifts which was the Alpha. Since this design first appeared in the 80's it's been around for almost 25 years and is the only FG terminal to have that kind of presence. Doppelmayr terminals during the late 70's and 80's had a number of different styles, though what seemed to dictate this styles was more the size and function of the lift. The base of the drive terminal basically followed the standard doppelmayr 4 leg design though the terminal structure basically looked different at every resort. Most are boxy and have a corrogated sheet metal outer shells. The boxy struxtures are sometimes addorned by an arbitrary number of windows depending on the resort. Doppelmayr began to follow a single similar style of terminal when in around the late 80s to coincide with their first style of detachable quads using a similar detached drive housing to the alpha.
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Doppelmayr used this terminal style until about the mid 1990s when they adopted a slightly altered version of this terminal which was available as a fixed or a tensioning drive station.
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This terminal was continued to be used until doppelmayr merged with ctec and the curent terminal styles were adopted.

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:57 AM

Poma did build a few other terminals besides the Alpha.

Delta, combined drive and tension:
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Delta, fixed drive:
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These can also be seen at Crested Butte and Purgatory, probably a few other places.

This terminal doesn't have an official name, and I've only seen one of them. It's basically a vault with a single mast to support the drive sheave and the brakes.
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Posted 21 October 2005 - 05:25 AM

I'd say that Riblet terminals were pretty distinctive.

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 10:08 AM

View Postliftmech, on Oct 21 2005, 04:57 AM, said:

Poma did build a few other terminals besides the Alpha.

Delta, combined drive and tension:
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Delta, fixed drive:
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These can also be seen at Crested Butte and Purgatory, probably a few other places.

This terminal doesn't have an official name, and I've only seen one of them. It's basically a vault with a single mast to support the drive sheave and the brakes.
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Where is that last one located?

I dont know if this would also be classified as a Delta but it is a more interesting design using this terminal. I would imagine that it was used when a longer travel of the tensioning was required.
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Posted 21 October 2005 - 11:12 AM

That last one appears to be the Midway Shuttle at Crystal Mountain, well not at Crystal anymore, but now at Loup Loup in Eastern Washington.
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Posted 21 October 2005 - 03:22 PM

I've managed to gather up some more examples of doppelmayr terminals. The first example is one of the earliest designs which an be found at Snowbird and Squaw with more in and around the continent. The drive is located within the upper part of the structure and is either contained in a small motor room like at squaw or the terminal is completely covered like is found at snowbird.
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The next example is the boxy terminal. What is perplexing is the location and abundance of windows on these terminals. These terminals feature standard doppelmayr corrogated metal siding and can be found on Quad, tri, or monopod, terminal strucutres.
At Jakson hole this terminal has about the most windows you can stick on the terminal and as a result ends up looking very similar to the Poma Delta.
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The standard issue model as found at big sky in Montana is pretty boring
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The last example can be found at Big White. This terminal has windows on either side of the terminal making it resemble the model doppelmayr used on it's early HSQs however this terminal is just a modified version of the boxy terminal.
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Posted 22 October 2005 - 09:28 AM

If you look at www.poma.net you can find pictures of Poma terminals in Europe.
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Posted 22 October 2005 - 01:48 PM

here is a riblet classic terminal. I do not know if it has a name but it is definatly riblet. notice the triangular windows.

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 03:53 AM

That's the 70s combined drive-and-tension terminal. It's the same as the one I posted above with the guys on the ladder (chair 5 at baker). that one had a new motor room shell because the original was 1) wooden and a fire hazard, and 2) very narrow. The new mod extended the floor space out by three feet sone one could actually walk.
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 08:20 AM

View Postpoloxskier, on Oct 21 2005, 02:08 PM, said:

I dont know if this would also be classified as a Delta but it is a more interesting design using this terminal. I would imagine that it was used when a longer travel of the tensioning was required.
http://www.coloradoskihistory.com/largeima...ge_j04_0004.jpg


hmmm almost looks like a delta terminal placed onto an alpha pedistal... anybody know the history of this lift?
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 07:53 PM

Is this lift (Morrisey Express) at Sun Peaks a Uni G or a Uni GS, i didnt get a good side pic so i cant remember.


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Posted 23 October 2005 - 08:28 PM

It's a UNI-G. You can tell just from the nice white and smooth panels under the terminal.

The UNI-GS on the other hand has lines that extend down into the center of the terminal from the sides giving it weird look. If you check out the pictures of the new HSQ at loon, you will be able to see what I'm talking about.

Once you see how different the terminals are, you should have no trouble identifying them.
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 08:30 PM

Whats the leitner HSQ design called?
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And the Doppelcake design?
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