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#61 SkiBachelor

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Posted 13 September 2005 - 09:16 AM

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The 4th Heron-Poma double at Mary Jane in Colorado is the Iron Horse, the double chair at Arapahoe Basin is the original Lenaway lift and the lift at Vail is lift #11 (the original Northwoods chair). Bashor lift at Steamboat is a very unique design. Not many more of the raised drives & bottom stations left anymore. They were pretty cool.


I believe that the current Iron Horse was relocated when the Summit Express went in. So was it's original name Iron Horse of something different?
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 02:54 PM

Alright, the 1973 installation survey is now up. The prior 1973 installation sheet was actually the 1972. I guess SAM made an error.

http://www.skilifts....tall_na1973.htm

I have also updated the lift installation surveys up to 1980 with new lift names.
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 03:05 PM

View PostSkiBachelor, on Sep 13 2005, 11:16 AM, said:

I believe that the current Iron Horse was relocated when the Summit Express went in. So was it's original name Iron Horse of something different?

The Iron Horse has always been in the location it is in now. I have skied WP/MJ since the late 70's. Summit Express was a more-than-welcome addition in 1985 since lines at the Iron Horse used to reach in excess of 45min and 30 min at Challenger. Even Pony Express had 15-20 min lines. The Summit was MUCH needed. However none of the other lifts that terminate on "lunch rock" were there yet back in those days so the top of the mountain was actually the top of Iron Horse and the catwalk which goes from the top of Iron Horse to the top of Challenger was as high as one could go at MJ. Still great skiing though if one could brave those long lines!
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 03:12 PM

Cameron,

I think you got some mix-n-matches. :smile:

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Summit at Snoqualmie Gold Hills 2C Thiokol N/A 1530 287 1200 400
Stevens Pass Keechelus 3C Thiokol N/A 1960 1502 1700 400
White Pass Wildside 3C Thiokol N/A 5165 1502 770 500


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Posted 13 September 2005 - 03:22 PM

Since you may not know where green mountain is it was near Nanimo. It was run by a doctors two sons and originally had two tows. I hope to hike up the trail to green mtn next summer or next time i get over to the island. I think the mtn closed about 30 yrs ago. Does anyone know where the T-bar was built at Whistler and one of the two Harper lifts was in an area that is nolonger part of the ski hill, this is just a guess.

Snow Valley is now Fernie. I was wondering about snow valley!

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Posted 13 September 2005 - 03:22 PM

Alright, SAM just lists the lift being a lot longer than what it appears to be on the map, like the length of the Summit Express.

Thanks for the heads up Bill, I forgot to change the names last night.
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 04:52 PM

Does anyone know where the second Green Chair at Whistler was relocated from? It was installed in 74 so unless SAM missed it it was relocated.

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Posted 14 September 2005 - 06:48 AM

View PostSkiBachelor, on Sep 12 2005, 02:55 PM, said:

Since we were curious about what year that Packsaddle lift was isntalled at Keystone, the original one was installed in 1974. However on the 1976 LE Installation sheet, it lists the Packsaddle lift again again but instead of the term NEW for new lift, the term RTT is used.

Does anyone have any ideas what RTT means?


In YANese, RTT means Return Tension Terminal. To go with that you would have an FDT meaning Fixed Drive Terminal. The other arrangement would be a DTT = Drive Tension Terminal with a FRT=Fixed Return Terminal.
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Posted 14 September 2005 - 05:47 PM

The 1972 lift installation sheet has been reposted with more lift installations.

http://www.skilifts....tall_na1972.htm
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Posted 14 September 2005 - 06:56 PM

The lift at Forbidden is Orange Chair, my avatar is a pic of it this summer. (1972)

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Posted 14 September 2005 - 07:12 PM

1972
Lake Louise is Larch Chair
Salmo is T-bar
Snowpatch is T-bar

"Cranbrook" is most likely Kimberley but no guarantees at the moment. I will try to contact the museam up there.

There is a sign on the hwy to Port Alberni at the road to mt arrowsmith that is carved out of wood and looks fairly old. It has a lift status thing saying if the "Chair" is open. So you could if you like call the 1974 installation at Arrowsmith "Chair" at blewitt it would be just the T-bar

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Posted 14 September 2005 - 07:29 PM

It really can't be Cranbrook since there was an M-Latta installed at Kimberely back in the day.
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Posted 15 September 2005 - 10:15 AM

View Postskiersage, on Sep 8 2005, 07:21 PM, said:

here is some more stuff
The 1993 riblet quad at nubs nob is the red chair
the 1997 quad at nubs is the black lift
the garaventa CTEC lifts at schuss mountain (shanty creek) are the pink chair, the blue chair, the yellow chair, and the purple chair respectively in 1997 and the red chair in 1998.
the 1991 triple at nubs is brown lift
the 1989 triple at nubs is the yellow lift
also in 1989 the von roll lift at sugar loaf is chair #2
the CTEC triple at crystal mountain MI in 1988 is the loki triple
the 1979 triple at nubs nob is the orange lift


Something isn't right with the shanty info:

'97
Shanty Creek Pink 4C Garaventa CTEC 100 1331 330 2400 425
Shanty Creek Blue 4C Garaventa CTEC 100 1012 240 2400 425
Shanty Creek Yellow 4C Garaventa CTEC 100 1400 230 2000 425
Shanty Creek Purple 4C Garaventa CTEC 125 1268 340 1800 425
'98
Shanty Creek Red 4C Garaventa CTEC 100 1348 322 1800 425

The problem is that the yellow, blue and pink lifts are all about 330 in vert. The purple and red lifts are much shorter. It is hard to say which lift is which but my best guess is:
'97
Shanty Creek Pink 4C Garaventa CTEC 100 1331 330 2400 425
Shanty Creek Red 4C Garaventa CTEC 100 1012 240 2400 425
Shanty Creek Purple 4C Garaventa CTEC 100 1400 230 2000 425
Shanty Creek Blue 4C Garaventa CTEC 125 1268 340 1800 425
'98
Shanty Creek Yellow 4C Garaventa CTEC 100 1348 322 1800 425

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Posted 15 September 2005 - 11:18 AM

Has anyone heard the term Greater Park City Resort?

I presume that it's Park City Mountain Resort, but on the same installation sheet, it listed both Park City and Greater Park City. It made it sounds kind of confuesing unless Greater Park City refered to the ski area with Park City being the town itself since there was a poma installed there.
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Posted 15 September 2005 - 12:37 PM

It could have been one of those small hills along I-80. I don't know what their names were, but that would fit because in the 70s PCMR would have been called Park City Ski Area
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Posted 16 September 2005 - 09:08 PM

The 1971 lift installation survey is now up.

http://www.skilifts....tall_na1971.htm
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Posted 17 September 2005 - 03:49 AM

View PostSkiBachelor, on Sep 14 2005, 09:47 PM, said:

The 1972 lift installation sheet has been reposted with more lift installations.

http://www.skilifts....tall_na1972.htm


I think the unnamed lift at PCMR (SLI double) is the First Time lift - the numbers sound about right. It was an SLI double before it was a CTEC triple, and now the high speed quad
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Posted 17 September 2005 - 06:23 AM

Sun Peaks lift is Shuswap Double, it says on their site it was installed in 72 but probably not. Lake Louise lift is Eagle Chair most likely.

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Posted 17 September 2005 - 07:20 AM

The Heron- Poma double chair at Winter PArk in 1971 was the original Olympia chair. It had center-bar carriers with footrests. If tall people did not duck when loading it, the footrest would whack them in the back of the head-OUCH@!
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Posted 18 September 2005 - 06:05 PM

There appears to be an error in the 71 lift survey:

Whitecap Mountain N/A 2C Hall N/A 4327 652 800 465

The problem is that the ski area has a advertised vertical of 400 feet. (less in reality)

The only lift that this might refer to is what the resort calls the "mile long double" which goes up, down, up and then down again with two load and 2 (bi-directional) unload points. But that lift is said to be 1000 feet longer than this entry. Can anyone shed some light on this entry in the survey? Could there be an error in the data provided?





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