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Started by Zage, Jul 15 2005 05:49 PM

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#1 Zage

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 05:49 PM

Welcome to the topic about my model 3S ropeway, I just started today with the terminals and will continue adding other components. Here is the drive terminal (just to note the tension terminal is the exact same as the drive station, only without the motor). The terminal is not fully loaded, it is missing the accelerator/decelerator tiers, cadence chain, extra support beams, detachable mechanism ect... it is just to show you the basic construction. As the days go on, more components will be added.

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 09:19 PM

very cool, looking forward to upcoming pics!
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#3 Zage

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Posted 16 July 2005 - 04:20 PM

Here is my fully loaded drive terminal. Just some info about the terminal, the accelerator tier bank is longer and goes faster that the decelerator tier bank to give the cabin plenty of time to properly attach and get up to line speed faster. Both tier banks are fully height adjustable. The cadence chain goes in a funny pattern because once again, the accelerator tiers start earlier.

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Posted 16 July 2005 - 04:31 PM

Just to add, my model will be like the 3S system they have at Kitzbhule the way it goes down, then back up. Here is a video clip of the tier banks in action.

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Posted 16 July 2005 - 04:55 PM

Hahaha that is awesome! It's funny to see all the gears going so fast.
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Posted 16 July 2005 - 06:31 PM

i agree, thats totally fabulous Zage! :biggrin:

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Posted 16 July 2005 - 07:46 PM

I'm following the geartrain, but the way you have it set up, it doesn't look like there is a different ratio between each tire, is that right?

(as in, all the tires rotate at the same speed)

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Posted 16 July 2005 - 08:27 PM

That's right Duck, the accelerator tier bank have smaller gears and the decelerator tier bank have big gears, so the drive motor has a big gear and it drives the first accelerator shaft witch has a small gear and that will rotate faster than the drive shaft(basic science I'm teaching here :laugh: ) so the cycle is increase speed decrease speed. In the picture, the orange arrows are the accelerator tier bank and the blue arrows are the decelerator tier bank.

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Posted 16 July 2005 - 08:43 PM

Unfortunatley, though, with your setup, while the acceleration tires are moving at a different speed than all your deceleration tires, all the tires on each "side" are going the same speed. You have to have a step-up or step-down per tire, to get each tire to rotate at a slightly different speed than the tire next to it. Check out how how it's usually done:

http://www.funivie.o...zbuhel_3s/3.htm

You can see how each tire has two pulleys on it. One is a different diameter - the ratio between each subsequent tire causes each one to rotate slightly faster (or slower).

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Posted 17 July 2005 - 03:12 PM

My system works well, so I'm going to keep it that way. I performed a test to see if the tiers could accelerate the test cabin, now the test cabin weighs more then the actual cabin I will be using, but the tiers accelerated it with ease.

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 09:27 PM

How's this project going? It looks great from all the pics so far, and I'm anxious to see it progress. :thumbup:
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#12 Zage

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Posted 22 July 2005 - 07:41 AM

Well here you go, these are the completed terminals. I will show you pics of the drive station first. The cool thing is that with my motor setup is that there is the main control box, 2 motors and it is all remote control. I could be 20 ft away and make the lift operate. Both terminals are missing the cadence because I'm lubbing them.

Drive station:
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Pretend auxiliary engines:
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Drive motor:
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Cadence chain motor:
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Control box:
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Posted 22 July 2005 - 07:46 AM

Tension station:
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Tension lorry:
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Motor controls:
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Tier bank:
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Tiers:
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Posted 22 July 2005 - 07:54 AM

Here are some other things, including a video of a cabin accelerating.

Test cabin:
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Weight cabin:
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Pretend exhaust and air intake for engines:
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Here is my detachable grip :laugh: :
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Here is the clip:
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Posted 22 July 2005 - 06:43 PM

The terminals are all installed and I'm going out tomorrow to by some cable for the haul and track ropes.
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 08:21 AM

Here are some data of my tri-cable system.

1.Vertical rise(floor to bottom of station):2 feet 9 inches

2.Length(back of station to back of station): 16 feet 4 inches

3.Tower(s):1

4.Tower length(bottom to top): 2 feet 9 inches

5.Cabins: 2-3

[/U]Drive station info

1.Drive motor: K'nex hi-torque

2.Cadence motor: K'nex hi-torque

3.Tier bank motor: K'nex hi/lo speed

[U]Tension station info

1.Counter weights: hockey pucks

2.Tier bank motors: 3 K'nex basic

3.Cadence motor: 1 K'nex basic

Haul rope: white nylon

Track ropes: wire rope

Total build days: 15

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 11:55 AM

There were some complications with the haul rope, apparently it was to big and bulky and could not be deflected very well. So I'm going to buy a smaller haul rope.
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Posted 05 August 2005 - 05:07 PM

Here are pics of my project.

The tower:
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Rope set-up:
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Drive station:
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Tension station:
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Parking rail:
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Posted 05 August 2005 - 05:10 PM

Here is a temporary material ropeway for the tower:
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Posted 06 August 2005 - 12:46 AM

Nice work and great video. :biggrin:
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