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[Kelly]

Wilmington, NY (Thursday, March 17, 2005) - One of the Whiteface Mountain's lifts, the Summit Quad chair, is temporarily closed for mechanical repairs.

"We regret the lift closure and assure our guests that every effort is being made to get the lift into full service as soon as possible," said Whiteface General Manager Jay Rand.

While the Summit Quad is being repaired, on March 19-20 mountain management will transport patrons on a limited basis via snowcats to the top of the resort's Skyward trail where the summit lift terminates.

http://www.firsttrac...om/welcome2.htm

Perhaps one of our readers could post a image of this lift.

Ryan B

[Durrrant]

I'm still looking for a picture, but i'll give a rundown of the lift.

It is a CTEC fixed grip quad. Replaced a Yan Triple.


"Sprint" model Bottom drive and tension. (this is the DoppCtec name, not sure of the original CTEC name.)

Numbers:
Length: 4,706 ft.
Vertical Rise: 1,830 ft.
1500 pph.

It has a long, steep liftline. Whiteface has the highest vertical drop in the East coast, about 3,100 feet. This lift is very long and very very cold.

Hope this helps.

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[Dr Frankenstein]

I went to Whiteface on March 11th and the bottom terminal was making weird noises (loud "click-click-click-clicks"). I don't know if it's normal but it was weird.

[SkiBachelor]

I believe that's perfectly normal since all the old CTEC fix grips I have been on make that sound.

[barnstormer]

SkiBachelor, on Apr 6 2005, 11:34 PM, said:

I believe that's perfectly normal since all the old CTEC fix grips I have been on make that sound.
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You are correct. The clicking comes from three plastic rods that are the triggers for the "drop dog" anti-rollback devices. During forward rotation they just drag across the spokes of the bullwheel, clicking each time they drop off a spoke. In reverse, they trip a heavy metal bar that catch on the spoke, ala broom handle in bicycle spokes.

By the way, the CTEC actually replaced a Riblet triple that was relocated down to the beginner area. That lift line has always been subject to really gnarly winds.

[Durrrant]

I have ridden that Riblet, although not in a long time. Are you sure that it is pure riblet? Although, I very clearly rember it having clip grips, and thinking, "wow thats strange". however, that was before I had ever skiied out west and seen a classic riblet.

I am almost cirtain that it is at least part Yan. The return station screams YAN, and I am pretty sure that the lifts lack halos. again, I stress that I have not ridden that lift in at least five years, and since well before I was into ski lifts, so it is entirely possible that I am 100% wrong.

[SkiBachelor]

Did it have a drive terminal like this? Because if it did, it was pure Riblet.

[liftmech]

I see they use a snowcat to power their clip moving tool.

Newer Riblets do scream Yan. In fact, many of Yan's designs seem to have been adapted in Riblet lifts- terminals, brakes, and a few other things. Riblet also stopped using halos with the new carrier design, since it is heavier and less prone to swinging on line. You can always tell by the clips and sheaves, as well.

[Dr Frankenstein]

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Did it have a drive terminal like this? Because if it did, it was pure Riblet.

Yep.

[Durrrant]

guess its solved, then. the CTEC replaced a Riblet Triple.

[orangegondola]

Durrrant, on Apr 8 2005, 06:21 PM, said:

guess its solved, then. the CTEC replaced a Riblet Triple.
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The triple it replaced was a yan, pic is on my site.

[Durrrant]

orangegondola, on Apr 9 2005, 11:45 PM, said:

The triple it replaced was a yan, pic is on my site.
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thats what I thought. And yes, that lift is without a doubt a Yan. Are we sure that it wasn't Yan who moved the Riblet, with the CTEC then replacing a Yan? Or, did the Riblet come from somewhere else?

[barnstormer]

orangegondola, on Apr 10 2005, 12:45 AM, said:

The triple it replaced was a yan, pic is on my site.
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I beg to differ but the triple CTEC replaced was a Riblet. I was the electrician for CTEC on the job. I helped fly concrete and wired the new lift and also rewired the Riblet when it became the "Bunny Hutch" lift down in the beginner area. One of the things we did during the rewire was remove the TRB because the new profile did not require it. Your photo sure looks like a Yan return and a Yan Tower head. Are you positive that's Whiteface? The topography sure looks right but I'm quite sure there were never any Yans at Whiteface.

Now that I think about it, I was never at the old lift's return terminal. Maybe Yan retrofitted the top terminal and the top couple of towers?

[SkiBachelor]

I dunno, but those carriers are defiantly yan. It doesn't make any sense why Yan would retro this lift because it was pretty new and I don't recall Riblet having any problems with the return station.

[Dr Frankenstein]

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The triple it replaced was a yan, pic is on my site.

Weird. I have pictures that my parents took in early 90s and the summit triple REALLY looks like a Riblet. I'll scan it and I'll upload it.