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[willard2]

This summer I am installing a partek double with 10 towers 2500' long with 1 person that has installed many lifts, 1 skilled laborer, and myself, 3 total. Is that possible in 6 months

[puk]

Is the engineering completed? Are the permits approved? How much site work must be done?

[willard2]

puk, on Mar 9 2005, 05:15 PM, said:

Is the engineering completed? Are the permits approved? How much site work must be done?
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All engineering and permits are in place, site work although steep, is not bad. I am removing a Hall t-Bar where the lift will go but I will scrap that lift so nothing technical about taking that down

[Kicking Horse]

Why Scrap the t-bar?

[willard2]

Kicking Horse, on Mar 9 2005, 08:20 PM, said:

Why Scrap the t-bar?
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I didnt really think anyone was buying t-bars these days,and I already have 2 hall doubles on the ground, really dont need another thing in the bone yard.

[Kicking Horse]

I know i'm off topic but is the t-bar and good shape? If so you might want to check out Resortboneyard.com

This post has been edited by Kicking Horse: 09 March 2005 - 05:42 PM

[willard2]

Kicking Horse, on Mar 9 2005, 09:42 PM, said:

I know i'm off topic but is the t-bar and good shape?  If so you might want to check out Resortboneyard.com
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Thanks I will ck it out, the lift is in good shape, has good alluminum t-bars,end structure is in a building, has been well maintained, cable only has 4 or 5 yrs lft on it.

[Bill]

Skilifts.org is working on setting up a free Classifieds Ads area. Should be up in a few weeks.

[Kicking Horse]

I don't really think 3 people can install a lift in 6 months... Is there anyway you can get more help?

[willard2]

Kicking Horse, on Mar 9 2005, 11:45 PM, said:

I don't really think 3 people can install a lift in 6 months... Is there anyway you can get more help?
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I can of course its a money issue, and again not many people familer with lifts,im on the new york vermont border so you can imagine where all the good help is !!!!

[puk]

Well, it sounds very ambitious, my gut feeling is that you may want more help. I would break the entire project down into small steps creating a time line for each specific step. For example, earthwork, 1 man 12 days , form work 2 men 12 days etc etc. Figure 10 hour days , 1 day is thirty man hours times 5 days per week times 6 months of weeks, I think you can see where I am going with this. Resign yourself to the fact that there are some steps that just can't be done with three men, like pulling the haul rope. The wear and tear on the mind and body will get to you after 6 months of labor intensive work. Good luck and be safe.

[Kicking Horse]

i bet you could find some free help out there.

[SkiBachelor]

It would also save you some time if you started to put together the carriers right now. However, you probably don't have a lot of room to store them and keep them safe.

[willard2]

SkiBachelor, on Mar 10 2005, 02:01 PM, said:

It would also save you some time if you started to put together the carriers right now. However, you probably don't have a lot of room to store them and keep them safe.
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I appriciate all the input, I will keep everyone informed thanks.

[caroth]

willard2, on Mar 9 2005, 06:48 PM, said:

I didnt really think anyone was buying t-bars these days,and I already have 2 hall doubles on the ground, really dont need another thing in the bone yard.
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How long is the t-bar?

[willard2]

caroth, on Mar 10 2005, 07:08 PM, said:

How long is the t-bar?
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The t-bar is about 2600' long

[liftmech]

You already have at least two people who have a handle on what needs to be done. Figure you need at least two more people plus a whole gang for pulling haul rope and comline. One person can be put to work assembling carriers and another two building towers. You didn't mention if you can dig tower footings with equipment or by hand, but there's another two-person crew. Figure two people to build concrete forms, as puk said. The same two plus at least one more to fill the forms when the time comes. When it gets to that point, flying towers needs at least two groups to make it efficient, probably three to four per group. Placing terminals will need at least two people in addition to the crane operator. Final assembly i.e. tower wiring, terminal interconnects, lift shacks, and hanging carriers could be done by two or three people. Load test needs at least one person at the top plus two or three at the bottom and of course the engineer.
This is all based off my rather limited lift construction experience, so take it for what you will.

[Shawn]

willard2, on Mar 9 2005, 01:01 PM, said:

This summer I am installing a partek double with 10 towers 2500' long with 1 person that has installed many lifts, 1 skilled laborer, and myself, 3 total. Is that possible in 6 months
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Sorry.. but I dont think that will be a very easy deal to pull off with just three guys.

[Kelly]

Lost in depths of our deepening posts and replies –

Construction photos – Turner Mt. near Libby Montana
http://www.libbymt.c...ions/turner.htm
also skiturner.com

All-terrain concrete truck is worth the look.

Ryan B