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#21 highspeedquad

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Posted 10 February 2005 - 05:56 AM

There is a lot less machinery on the Dopp midstations. Why is that?

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Posted 10 February 2005 - 04:18 PM

It just depends on the lift, if it turn, loads/unloads. I don't think there is too much of a difference between doppelmayr and l/p midstations, in most cases its just the application of the midstation.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 08:56 AM

This is the angle- and unload station of the HSQ Vioz-Les Mazots in Les Diablerets (Switzerland)

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Posted 11 February 2005 - 02:00 PM

Is that a Dopp midstation?
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 02:44 PM

Garaventa I believe, but it also looks like Von Roll too. :)
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 02:46 PM

Yes, it's a Garaventa lift

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Posted 11 February 2005 - 03:09 PM

tpd do u have any pics of this mid station? or lift for that matter?
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 04:27 PM

I too would like to see some other pics of the Garaventa midstation. Why is it so different from this midstation? Attached File  midstation.jpg (436.04K)
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Is it just to allow downloading? This midstation was brought up in another related topic by Skibachelor.

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Posted 11 February 2005 - 04:40 PM

That's the MCS terminal and was Garaventa's newest terminal design before Doppelmayr bought Garaventa. The picture that TPD posted is an older model.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 04:42 PM

That makes sense, having different installation years. Were there half midstations of the MCS?
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 01:07 AM

The lift with the MCS midstation is in Leysin (CH). This lift was built in 2001.

The HSQ Vioz was built in 1994.

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Posted 12 February 2005 - 03:00 PM

So a half or full midstation often boils down to a need for downloading or not.
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 09:17 PM

I have not seen any high speed lifts servicing Alpine Slides, but I've just been to a few. Do you have pictures?
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 09:26 PM

The lift isn't run at high-speed in the summer, but rather the speed of a fixed grip lift.

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Posted 12 February 2005 - 09:28 PM

How does it work, I don't see any lower sheaves or the like. Also, wouldn't that cause some problems with the cadencing?
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 10:03 PM

The lift also runs slower in the station as well. It's like when the lift is run at half speed in the winter everything slows down.

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Posted 13 February 2005 - 06:04 AM

The sheaves that are hanging above the haul rope in that pic but don't hold it down are lowered during the summer, making a depression tower. You get off and walk off to the left to get out of the way of the chair. I think they run it slower than the old Yan triple there used to go. The line for the Yan triple is now the Ziprider
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 11:57 AM

Alright. For the Breck Alpine slide they have a tower that they unscrew and leave down in the winter, but in the summer they lift it up to make a depression sheave train.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 12:18 PM

The old Payday triple had a midstation for the Alpine Slide in the same spot, does anyone remember how that worked? I can't think of whether it had anything special or just a regular depression tower
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Posted 18 February 2005 - 08:07 PM

Floridaskier, Group,

I'm new to the group but have been lurking for about a month so I'll fill in where I can.

My dad and I used to go to PCMR (then Park City Ski Area) in the mid-to-late 80's and early 90's and I rode the old Payday lift both in the summer and winter. From what I remember :wacko: there were two height variable depression towers at the unload station(uphill only)(similar to the ones on the present PCMR Thaynes chair at the loading return terminal). From what I can remember there was a set of healthy hoisting chains and a couple of 20 ton hydraulic bottle jacks on each tower. During the summer they would (guesstimating) jack the sheave assemblies of each tower down by 10-15 so that footed passengers could walk off the lift. During the Winter they would have the sheaves up so that there was at least 10 feet of clearance between the snow and ski/board bottoms and no unloading activity would take place.

Sorry the brain gets fuzzy after 15 years of not seeing it....

If you look at the photos (in the chairlift gallery) showing the loading terminal of Thaynes at PCMR, you can kind of get an idea of what payday had tower wise. The loading terminal of Olympic Lady at Squaw Valley shows a pretty good example of what payday's mid-unload towers looked like, although I remember them being a little more involved than that. I don't think that I've got any photos of them specifically but I'll see what my dad has from our times doing the alpine slide.

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floridaskier, on Feb 13 2005, 01:18 PM, said:

The old Payday triple had a midstation for the Alpine Slide in the same spot, does anyone remember how that worked? I can't think of whether it had anything special or just a regular depression tower
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