Hi!
I was just curious to see what lifts are going to be built at some ski resorts especially the gondola at Breck. I see that some lifts are going to built at Steamboat and a gondola at Copper. Does anyone know anything that I don't?
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Started by Boeinglover, Feb 01 2005 07:56 AM
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 07:56 AM
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 08:14 AM
Breckenridge is also building a lift to the top of peak 8 but there is nothing definate as to wether either it or the gondola will be in next season.
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"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
Theres a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 10:08 AM
Chicopee is adding a lift of some description next year to serve their expansion on front.
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 11:46 AM
I read on the internet that the gondola will not be here fo a few years and the high speed quad will be the lift to the top of Peak 8. Also, I have read from a few sources that Breck will expand to Peak 6.
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 11:48 AM
There has been talk of breaking ground for the gondola this spring but that has yet to be decided. The shock hill housing development which is kicking in alot of funds into the skiway into town and the gondola are really pushing for the gondola to be operational next fall. The peak 6 expansion is still in the early planing stages.
This post has been edited by poloxskier: 01 February 2005 - 11:51 AM
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Theres a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
Theres a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 11:51 AM
True, I'm not sure about the peak 6 expansion. But I did read sommewhere that the gondola won't be here for a few years. I searched for that and found out about all this. I'm pretty sure it won't be here for a while but don't hold me to that.
This post has been edited by highspeedquad: 01 February 2005 - 03:14 PM
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 03:44 PM
Talked to personnel at vail. lift 10, aka Highline double, a 60's vintage Riblet is to be replaced and extended to the top with a HSQ, as is lift 14, aka. Sourdough lift, a 80's vintage yan/dopp triple. To bad, now gapers are going to flood a those great steeps that the long slow highline chair kept them away from. 
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 03:55 PM
I'm suprised that highline will be replaced as there is no need for aditional capacity. I have never seen a line on that lift. I actualy like the long ride as it allows you to rest your legs for the next decent. Although a HS lift would be nice to allow for more runs in a day.
The aditional HSQs would also be in keeping with Vail's image of a great resort with the newest lifts.
The aditional HSQs would also be in keeping with Vail's image of a great resort with the newest lifts.
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Theres a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
Theres a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 04:11 PM
Hello!
I still am wondering about this gondola at Breckenridge. Does anyone have any info about this project. Perhaps also the Peak 8 summit express.
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I still am wondering about this gondola at Breckenridge. Does anyone have any info about this project. Perhaps also the Peak 8 summit express.
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 04:15 PM
BRECKENRIDGE — The Breckenridge Planning Commission unanimously approved Vail Resort’s plans for the Cucumber Creek gondola which will sweep skiers from in-town parking lots to the bases of Peaks 7 and 8.
The vote came after little discussion among commissioners who approved the project on first reading last month.
Resort officials made changes to the architecture at the base station near the transit center at Watson Lot by building a structure over the machinery. They also gave the facade a more barn-like appearance with post and beam on the outside and a concrete plaza rather than one using crushed road base.
“It’s more appropriate for the town,” said commissioner Ken Boos. “Everything’s been hammered out. It actually looks pretty nice.”
The gondola is one part of myriad improvements Vail Resorts, owner of the Breckenridge Ski Resort, wants to make to their base area on Peak 9. The gondola was proposed to move people rapidly onto the mountain and relieve vehicle congestion on Ski Hill Road.
According to lift director Jon Mauch, to cut costs, ski resort officials have decided to utilize eight-passenger cabins rather than the originally planned-for 12-person cabins.
As part of the project, the ski resort will also build a “skyway-skiway,” a ski trail that brings skiers from the Four O’clock ski run on Peak 8, through the forest, over a bridge near Hunt Placer Inn to the in-town parking lots.
The gondola plans now go to the town council for approval.
Heres the route thats planed for the gondola.
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The vote came after little discussion among commissioners who approved the project on first reading last month.
Resort officials made changes to the architecture at the base station near the transit center at Watson Lot by building a structure over the machinery. They also gave the facade a more barn-like appearance with post and beam on the outside and a concrete plaza rather than one using crushed road base.
“It’s more appropriate for the town,” said commissioner Ken Boos. “Everything’s been hammered out. It actually looks pretty nice.”
The gondola is one part of myriad improvements Vail Resorts, owner of the Breckenridge Ski Resort, wants to make to their base area on Peak 9. The gondola was proposed to move people rapidly onto the mountain and relieve vehicle congestion on Ski Hill Road.
According to lift director Jon Mauch, to cut costs, ski resort officials have decided to utilize eight-passenger cabins rather than the originally planned-for 12-person cabins.
As part of the project, the ski resort will also build a “skyway-skiway,” a ski trail that brings skiers from the Four O’clock ski run on Peak 8, through the forest, over a bridge near Hunt Placer Inn to the in-town parking lots.
The gondola plans now go to the town council for approval.
Heres the route thats planed for the gondola.
gondi_plans.jpg (39.14K)
Number of downloads: 81
-Bryan
Theres a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
Theres a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 04:20 PM
BRECKENRIDGE — Forest Service Ranger Rick Newton thinks the top of Peak 8 should become lift-served terrain and not just the domain of skiers and snowboarders willing to hike for their turns.
The U.S. Forest Service official in charge of the Dillon Ranger District Wednesday approved the Breckenridge Ski Resort’s Summit Lift that would land near the top of Peak 8.
He also approved a rebuild of the 6 Chair, which would feed the Summit Lift. Newton’s decisions face a 45-day appeals period.
The quad Summit Lift would be the highest in North America at 12,830 feet, and create easier access to the expert terrain at the Lake Chutes and on Peak 7, although some hiking would still be required.
“In reaching my decision, I must consider that the overarching intent of providing a ski area on public land is to provide a variety of opportunities for the public to use and enjoy our National Forests,” Newton said.
Newton based his decision on an Environmental Assessment document that detailed, among many things, how the Summit Lift would be built to limit visibility from the valley floor and construction would be sensitive to the high alpine environment.
Vail Resorts chairman and chief executive officer Adam Aron has said the $4 million Summit Lift would be built this summer if his board of directors approves.
The Summit Lift provoked criticism from skiers who believe it would cost the resort a unique alpine experience, even if hiking limits access.
At the same time, resort officials touted the lift as expanding the experience for those who can’t or won’t hike to the above-treeline snowfields.
“I am not necessarily against all ski area expansions, but I did not favor this one,” said Breckenridge Town Councilmember Jeffrey Bergeron, who likes to hike the Peak 8 terrain.
“But many people supported it. The Forest Service had a tough choice and it made it.”
Ski resort mountain operations chief Rick Sramek said while he heard the opposing arguments, he found many who want it.
“The comments I had been getting at large in town and around the county is that people like it and want to see it happen,” Sramek said.
“I felt all along that we did a lot of work beforehand and that this, indeed, was a good project and one that would be viable,” Sramek said.
Breckenridge local Mike Zobbe, a backcountry enthusiast, had spoken out against the lift.
“For me, it takes something away from the ski area,” Zobbe said, noting the loss of “wild snow” to heavier skier pressure. “It’s a shame, but that’s the direction of the business.”
Jeff Berman, executive director of the environmental group Colorado Wild, another lift opponent, could not be reached for comment.
While most attention has focused on the Summit Lift, the resort plan includes changing the two-seat 6 Chair to a quad and doubling its capacity to about 2,400 riders an hour.
Sramek said the 6 Chair is not on a timetable, that officials would first build the Summit Lift and watch how skier circulation patterns changed.
What's Proposed:
- The Breckenridge Ski Resort wants to build a new detachable quad chairlift to within 170 feet of the top of Peak 8 to serve advanced bowls and chutes now accessible only to hikers. The top terminal would land at 12,830 feet. Lift capacity would be about 600 to 800 riders an hour.
- The resort also wants to replace the current fixed-grip double-seated 6 Chair with a detachable quad using the existing alignment and terminals. It would double capacity to 2,400 riders an hour. The 6 chair serves terrain on the lower flanks of Peak 8.
- Appeals should be sent to the attention of Appeals Deciding Officer, White River National Forest, PO Box 948, Glenwood Springs, C0 81602. To view the preliminary approval from District Ranger Rick Newton, visit the district office in Silverthorne at 680 Blue River Parkway (Highway 9).
Heres the drawing of the line for the summit lift:
summit.jpg (74.56K)
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The U.S. Forest Service official in charge of the Dillon Ranger District Wednesday approved the Breckenridge Ski Resort’s Summit Lift that would land near the top of Peak 8.
He also approved a rebuild of the 6 Chair, which would feed the Summit Lift. Newton’s decisions face a 45-day appeals period.
The quad Summit Lift would be the highest in North America at 12,830 feet, and create easier access to the expert terrain at the Lake Chutes and on Peak 7, although some hiking would still be required.
“In reaching my decision, I must consider that the overarching intent of providing a ski area on public land is to provide a variety of opportunities for the public to use and enjoy our National Forests,” Newton said.
Newton based his decision on an Environmental Assessment document that detailed, among many things, how the Summit Lift would be built to limit visibility from the valley floor and construction would be sensitive to the high alpine environment.
Vail Resorts chairman and chief executive officer Adam Aron has said the $4 million Summit Lift would be built this summer if his board of directors approves.
The Summit Lift provoked criticism from skiers who believe it would cost the resort a unique alpine experience, even if hiking limits access.
At the same time, resort officials touted the lift as expanding the experience for those who can’t or won’t hike to the above-treeline snowfields.
“I am not necessarily against all ski area expansions, but I did not favor this one,” said Breckenridge Town Councilmember Jeffrey Bergeron, who likes to hike the Peak 8 terrain.
“But many people supported it. The Forest Service had a tough choice and it made it.”
Ski resort mountain operations chief Rick Sramek said while he heard the opposing arguments, he found many who want it.
“The comments I had been getting at large in town and around the county is that people like it and want to see it happen,” Sramek said.
“I felt all along that we did a lot of work beforehand and that this, indeed, was a good project and one that would be viable,” Sramek said.
Breckenridge local Mike Zobbe, a backcountry enthusiast, had spoken out against the lift.
“For me, it takes something away from the ski area,” Zobbe said, noting the loss of “wild snow” to heavier skier pressure. “It’s a shame, but that’s the direction of the business.”
Jeff Berman, executive director of the environmental group Colorado Wild, another lift opponent, could not be reached for comment.
While most attention has focused on the Summit Lift, the resort plan includes changing the two-seat 6 Chair to a quad and doubling its capacity to about 2,400 riders an hour.
Sramek said the 6 Chair is not on a timetable, that officials would first build the Summit Lift and watch how skier circulation patterns changed.
What's Proposed:
- The Breckenridge Ski Resort wants to build a new detachable quad chairlift to within 170 feet of the top of Peak 8 to serve advanced bowls and chutes now accessible only to hikers. The top terminal would land at 12,830 feet. Lift capacity would be about 600 to 800 riders an hour.
- The resort also wants to replace the current fixed-grip double-seated 6 Chair with a detachable quad using the existing alignment and terminals. It would double capacity to 2,400 riders an hour. The 6 chair serves terrain on the lower flanks of Peak 8.
- Appeals should be sent to the attention of Appeals Deciding Officer, White River National Forest, PO Box 948, Glenwood Springs, C0 81602. To view the preliminary approval from District Ranger Rick Newton, visit the district office in Silverthorne at 680 Blue River Parkway (Highway 9).
Heres the drawing of the line for the summit lift:
summit.jpg (74.56K)
Number of downloads: 119
-Bryan
Theres a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
Theres a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 04:59 PM
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Some stuff in the paper today about possible changes in lifts @ Sunshine.
Basically it's a big deal to get anything approved in the national parks so sunshine has basically come to their limit as far as their current agreement goes. Sunshine eventually plans to upgrade the tee pee town chair to a quad or possibly a HSQ but the government has not given them a permit. The story is the same for the Strawberry triple though i'm not sure of the lift change if it were upgraded. If these were to go through the oldest lift @ Sunshine would be the Angel express built in 1988. I'm sure not many places can boast that their HSQ is their oldest lift.
Sunshine plans also in the near future for new lifts on Goats eye mountain. Two more lifts have been appoved quite a while ago but the permits again are being held by the government. One of these new lifts would most likely serve the new Birthday bowl. The other lift has not been specified yet. On older trail maps the 3 lifts on goats eye are mapped out though only one has been built.
A new lift has also been planned to parralel the lower half of the Gondola. It would most likely be an HSQ and have similar dimensions to the gondola including a midstation. No word on if new runs will be cut along the liftline. Sunshine says the reason for this new lift would be to up out of base capacity as well as act as a back up lift for the gondola incase of a mechanical failure or it would run when the gondola is closed by wind. Access to the village would be through the goat's eye base and up wolverine express.
Among some of these new lifts come numerous upgrades to facilities. The parking area will recieve a much needed expansion along with a new day lodge @ Goat's eye to replace the current "tent". As well sunshine is continuing upgrades on the Sunshine inn to make it one of the best hotels in the banff area.
These upgrades will be sure to add to sunshine's reputation as Alberta's primere resort and probably the best after whistler. Resorts like nakiska and norquay are starting to chake in their boots as all but loyal skiers are going to be attracted to Sunshine. Even lake louise might see a drop in skiiers as sunshine just had it's best december on record.
Basically it's a big deal to get anything approved in the national parks so sunshine has basically come to their limit as far as their current agreement goes. Sunshine eventually plans to upgrade the tee pee town chair to a quad or possibly a HSQ but the government has not given them a permit. The story is the same for the Strawberry triple though i'm not sure of the lift change if it were upgraded. If these were to go through the oldest lift @ Sunshine would be the Angel express built in 1988. I'm sure not many places can boast that their HSQ is their oldest lift.
Sunshine plans also in the near future for new lifts on Goats eye mountain. Two more lifts have been appoved quite a while ago but the permits again are being held by the government. One of these new lifts would most likely serve the new Birthday bowl. The other lift has not been specified yet. On older trail maps the 3 lifts on goats eye are mapped out though only one has been built.
A new lift has also been planned to parralel the lower half of the Gondola. It would most likely be an HSQ and have similar dimensions to the gondola including a midstation. No word on if new runs will be cut along the liftline. Sunshine says the reason for this new lift would be to up out of base capacity as well as act as a back up lift for the gondola incase of a mechanical failure or it would run when the gondola is closed by wind. Access to the village would be through the goat's eye base and up wolverine express.
Among some of these new lifts come numerous upgrades to facilities. The parking area will recieve a much needed expansion along with a new day lodge @ Goat's eye to replace the current "tent". As well sunshine is continuing upgrades on the Sunshine inn to make it one of the best hotels in the banff area.
These upgrades will be sure to add to sunshine's reputation as Alberta's primere resort and probably the best after whistler. Resorts like nakiska and norquay are starting to chake in their boots as all but loyal skiers are going to be attracted to Sunshine. Even lake louise might see a drop in skiiers as sunshine just had it's best december on record.
An earlier post but is relavent here as well.
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 05:08 PM
poloxskier, on Feb 1 2005, 05:20 PM, said:
I think it would make more sense to replace chair 6. Have a mid load @ the top of chair 6.....
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 05:42 PM
Kicking Horse, on Feb 1 2005, 07:08 PM, said:
I think it would make more sense to replace chair 6. Have a mid load @ the top of chair 6.....
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The only problem with that design would be that there would be too much congestion on imperial bowl and that imperial bowl opens later and closes earlier than chair 6. Aside from instaling two lifts maybe they could do an interesting install that would keep with Breck's history of unique lifts. The lower half would be running at 2400 skiers per hour and couple the top line with increased carrier spacing but run off the same drive motor and a dual output gearbox but on a separate haul rope at about 800 skiers per hour.
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Theres a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
Theres a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 05:55 PM
They might make something crazy like that just to prove it could be done. Or maybe some system that would let them only run one half of the lift with drop-down turnarounds (like Alta's working on for the Collins lift)
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 06:29 PM
Hey while they are at it lets make a lift with two separate mazes one for the chairs that go to the summit and one that the chairs turn arround at the current top of 6.
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Theres a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
Theres a place for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.
"You could say that a mountain is alot like a woman, once you think you know every inch of her and you're about to dip your skis into some soft, deep powder...Bam, you've got two broken legs, cracked ribs and you pay your $20 just to let her punch your lift ticket all over again"
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 06:48 PM
Something like the quicksilver perhaps. One load zone to the summit one to the midstation. There might be issues with spacing and i'm not sure if any lifts have ever had a midstation that both returns chairs and keeps them moving down a lift line. Though if any of the lifts at breck are indications they'd probably be up for the challenge.
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