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#1 Zage

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Posted 27 January 2005 - 02:53 PM

:help: I am curious about the Von-Roll detachable grips, how do they work? I have looked at pictures of the VR-101 grips from the River Run gondola @ Keystone, but I can't seem to figure out how they work. Any descriptions or pictures will be great. :thumbsup: Also, what about the VR-104 grip.

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Posted 27 January 2005 - 03:01 PM

I'm stumped too. It doesn't look like it modes a whole lot, from the little bit I saw at Keystone

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Posted 27 January 2005 - 03:02 PM

is that chain cadenceing? when did VonRoll put the gondola in?
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Posted 27 January 2005 - 03:11 PM

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Posted 27 January 2005 - 03:11 PM

The River Run was an '86 install. Some of the cabins are original(blue) and some have been replaced/refurbished(green).
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Posted 27 January 2005 - 03:12 PM

floridaskier, on Jan 27 2005, 05:11 PM, said:


:---: You beat me to it!
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Posted 27 January 2005 - 03:31 PM

Actually, the green cabins arn't the refurbished ones. They are cabins that were purchased later for more capacity. :)

Have you seen the Von Roll grips that are displayed in the Keystone Cabin Storage page? There are two pictures of the grip close up. :) I would provide you with a link, but I'm at school right now and these computers don't allow people to right click to get a source.
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#8 Zage

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Posted 27 January 2005 - 03:57 PM

I have looked at those pictures, but I just don't get how they work.

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Posted 27 January 2005 - 04:04 PM

I think Meier Michael has some VR grip designs on his site. I don't know his website off the top of my head but I'm sure someone knows it here.

But I think it uses a torsion bar concept along with springs. So the wheels on the outside either go up or down to lock the grip onto the haul rope and springs hold the bar in place.
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Posted 27 January 2005 - 04:28 PM

There were at one point more cabins on than there are even now. Before the Outpost Gondola went in the River Run had alot of cabins on the line, so much so that they would fairly forceably crash into eachother in the stations. Maybe they reduced the capacity as the cabins aged and then decided to buy more to increase it again but there were just as many if not more cabins on the line when it was new.
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Posted 27 January 2005 - 04:30 PM

Durrrant, on Jan 27 2005, 05:02 PM, said:

is that chain cadenceing? when did VonRoll put the gondola in?
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The top station has a different design of cadence chains. There are actualy 2 different chains running at different speeds. One is the design of the lower station and the other only has a few catches on the entire chain.
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#12 Zage

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Posted 27 January 2005 - 04:31 PM

Coming back to the grips. :help:
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Posted 27 January 2005 - 05:00 PM

The one with only a few catches is the spacing system, the catches are spaced the right distance apart to keep them far enough apart

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The Keystone cabin storage feature:
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Posted 28 January 2005 - 05:08 AM

It looks like these grips operate in the same manner as the Doppelmayr DS series, with the mobile jaw locking open in the terminal and the actuator pulling the jaw back away from the rope. Quick assesment, but I've got to go to work now.
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#15 Zage

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Posted 28 January 2005 - 02:21 PM

What about the VR-104 grip, dose anyone have any pictures or info on that?
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Posted 28 January 2005 - 03:28 PM

I guess you can ask Liftmechanic. He works at Solitude and he might be able to get some picturs of the grip if he doesn't already.

If Liftmechanic doesn't see this post, I will PM him.
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Posted 28 January 2005 - 04:30 PM

Thanks Cameron. :thumbsup:
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#18 Zage

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Posted 28 January 2005 - 05:11 PM

So what about the VR-104 grip, any pics or info anybody?. Were they used on gondolas an chairlifts?
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Posted 28 January 2005 - 05:28 PM

Here is the grip on the HSQ at Solitude:

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#20 Zage

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Posted 28 January 2005 - 05:30 PM

But that is the VR-101 not the VR-104.
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