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[Kelly]

More bad luck at Mt. Bachelor – readers should note that the evac image is from the earlier incident on Rainbow chair and not related to the "high speed emergency stop" that the headline shows.


This link is to another alternative news source in Bend describing the 12/27 incident, image is not Rainbow chair.
Notice this web site is referenced!
http://www.bend.com/news/ar_view^3Far_id^3...#fm_flat_224066

Ryan B

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[Kicking Horse]

That's cool that they Refer to this site :)

[crazyskier91]

Uhh where do they mention this site?

[poloxskier]

In the link there is a link to a discussion in this forum about tramway standards.

[Kicking Horse]

The U.S. Forest Service, from whom Mt. Bachelor leases the resort’s land, requires annual inspections by specialists, using the American National Standards Institute’s standards for passenger ropeways and aerial lifts and trams, called ANSI B77 (http://www.skilifts....ex.php/t86.html), said Rick Brooks, Mt. Bachelor’s director of skiing.

[SkiBachelor]

Well then that explains the reason why I have been seeing all these guests printing topics lately. :)

Nice find Ryan. This is like the first news article that someone has mentioned the site for something I believe.

[KZ]

Are you sure thats not rainbow, it looks like the top of it.

[SkiBachelor]

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More bad luck at Mt. Bachelor – readers should note that the evac image is from the earlier incident on Rainbow chair and not related to the "high speed emergency stop" that the headline shows.

Ryan did mention that is the Rainbow lift in the picture and not to get it confused with the Pine Marten Express

[liftmech]

I have a couple of problems with the spokeswoman's statements- one, that the footrests would have restrained those people who fell out, and two, that the diesels are slower. Perhaps they aren't adjusted properly? I've ridden the Pine Marten on aux and it runs at 5.08 just as the electric drive does.

[SkiBachelor]

There is no way Pine Marten runs 5.08 m/s on auxiliary. That thing is slower than riding a fixed grip up the mountain when there are power issues and stuff. I could be wrong, but out of the 3 times I have been on that lift when it's on auxiliary, it's slow.

[KZ]

To keep going on the lift issue/ falling out deal, a kid fell off Schoolyard Express tuesday (the 4th) and broke his leg. He was 6 and fell about 20 feet to the ground.

Is it just me or is it kinda strange this year all the incidents thus far. Breakdowns at Keystone, Bachelor, Durango and people falling out of lifts. Kinda odd...

[poloxskier]

Which lift broke down at keystone?
By the way there was also a good fall that I saw at Vail on the High Noon lift. A woman loaded but didnt get in the chair all the way and fell at about the first tower. I never heard anything about it other than witnessing it since she was not hurt but she had a good 20 foot drop as the departure angle of the high noon is really steep.

[edmontonguy]

A lot of these falls seem to be happening at terminals or have something to do with loading the chairs. Could it be that skiiers are being less cautious than they should be or are failing to alert the lift operators if they did not load properly. Also The reason we could be hearing about more accidents is because our forum is growing. Naturally more stories will be heard if there are more people to find and report them.

[poloxskier]

They actualy at vail have begun posting warnings about the chairs moving fast in the loading area of the high noon and sun up lifts. The attendants are also grabing the chair as it travels arround the bull wheel and pulling in and up on the inside of the chair. Does anyone know if this is typical of all Dopps of this vintage?

[edmontonguy]

It probably has more to do with where the lift is situated. These lifts serve primarily expert runs and as for most Fgs they will run faster in areas where more experinced skiers are. Marmot Basin has a triple of similar vintage and the operators have to use the same technique when loading chairs especially because the chair spacing is fairly close for a triple. Though the holding of chairs by operators is a common practice it becomes more neccesarry at higher speeds to eliminate any mishaps while loading.

[liftmech]

As a chair moves faster around the bullwheel, it tends to swing to the outside more. If a bullwheel does not have a reaction ring or flange, or if such is worn and/or non-adjustable, the chairs swing too far out and the operator is trying to keep them centred on the ramp as they pass by.
Cameron- The last time I rode Pine Marten on diesel was quite a while ago- 1991 or so- so quite possibly the diesel controls have been adjusted since then. All of our diesels are programmed to run the same as the electric motors, and it is a simple adjustment if they aren't up to speed.