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#41 Eric

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 12:38 PM

O.K Now, What is the slowest High-Speed Quad ?

The snowshed Express @ Killington is very slow for a HSQ and it's not because it use to be a Yan.

The friendly giant @ LLouise is much faster :D
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Posted 08 January 2004 - 12:46 PM

Slowest HSQ that I have been has to be the Schweitzer HSQ in Idaho. Man that thing is slow. It's a Yan HSQ and retrofitted by Doppelmayr in 1996 or 97. But yea, they need to make that lift faster. I would say it goes like 3.5 m/s or something. However, when I was at Schweitzer they were having some financial trouble, so maybe that's why they were running the lift slow to save money.
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Posted 08 January 2004 - 12:57 PM

In Quebec they run their HSQ slower than out west. There is only 1 resort that runs them fast :Tremblant

The T.G.V Express and the Expo Express. Those are two poma HSQ that trow you off the chair at top :specool:
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Posted 08 January 2004 - 01:06 PM

A lot of POMA's HSQs do that I noticed. I think POMA designed it to do that instead of slowly moving you into the terminal before you unload. I think they thought it might be easier for people to unload easier if they have some speed to propel them. But who knows.
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Posted 08 January 2004 - 02:32 PM

Bromont also runs their HSQs at a fast speed. Mont Saint-Sauveur runs them between 4 and 3.5 m/s.

The slowest I rode : the Schuß Stoneham, probably 2.5 ou 3 m/s

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 05:08 PM

It isnt something poma does, it is just the posisioning of the unload point, or i believe the resort can pick the spot where the tyres really slow the chair down. I remember noticing something on goldcoast last year, an arrow that showed where it really lost its speed. That bar looked adjustable. Also, on Stump Alley at Mammoth, it launches you, and the point is the same as on all their other lifts. It had a bit of a flat section, so they may have adjusted it like that. Also, the 2 other 97 doppelmayr quads do not do that, so it must be optional or adjustable.
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Posted 09 February 2004 - 08:37 PM

Id say slowest chair would be either Olympic Chair at Whistler or the old Blueberry Chair at Grouse Mnt (No Longer in operation)

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Posted 10 February 2004 - 04:47 AM

KZ, on Jan 8 2004, 05:08 PM, said:

It isnt something poma does, it is just the posisioning of the unload point, or i believe the resort can pick the spot where the tyres really slow the chair down. I remember noticing something on goldcoast last year, an arrow that showed where it really lost its speed. That bar looked adjustable. Also, on Stump Alley at Mammoth, it launches you, and the point is the same as on all their other lifts. It had a bit of a flat section, so they may have adjusted it like that. Also, the 2 other 97 doppelmayr quads do not do that, so it must be optional or adjustable.

You are correct, sir. :)
During the design process, the is quite a bit of flexiblity as to how fast the chair slows down and where the unload point is. If you were to look at the inside of the tyre bank at the belts, you'd see that there is a definite ratio between each belt pulley. Those ratios are adjustable to a certain degree, as long as the overall deceleration or acceleration is constant. The bottom of E-lift was adjusted several years ago to eliminate severe chair swing at the bottom terminal, and all that was needed was to change several of the pulleys inside to change where the chair slowed down. (E has 90-degree loading, so the chair doesn't have the full contour to stop swinging.)
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 04:49 AM

WBSKI, on Feb 9 2004, 08:37 PM, said:

Id say slowest chair would be either Olympic Chair at Whistler or the old Blueberry Chair at Grouse Mnt (No Longer in operation)

You could almost walk up the hill faster than the Blueberry... but I still liked that lift. That was a Mueller, correct?
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 03:41 PM

No the blueberry was a habbeger, Inferno was a meuller.
Blueberry wasn't too slow!
Your probably thinking of the old cut chair. That chair was slower than......anything!
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 03:43 PM

oh by the way, the blueberry chair hasn't been removed. It still has the cables on the line but no chairs. The blueberry is still legally certified for operation.

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Posted 10 February 2004 - 04:35 PM

i dont know what id say is the slowest chair. Bailey's Beach at squaw is slow, but it probably isnt all that bad compared to other lifts.
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 04:38 AM

Chair 7 at breck, 300fpm on primary drive. :angry: Fortunately its just a beginner lift although I have to take it to get home.
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Posted 28 September 2005 - 02:44 PM

No contest, St Johns at Keystone. God I hated that lift!

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 03:13 PM

The longest, slowest chair ride I've had is galaxy at heavenly. The uncomfortable SLI chairs contribute to the bad-ness of the ride. :cursing:

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 03:25 PM

View PostSidBurn, on Sep 28 2005, 04:44 PM, said:

No contest, St Johns at Keystone. God I hated that lift!

St john's at Keystone was a dog, but what about the old ruby and santiago lifts. They took forever!

The midwest also has some slow lifts. (dis)honorable mention:
Valley at boyne highlands, MI
The "expert" quad at devils head, WI
East thunderhead mountain double at whitecap mountains, WI

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 07:31 AM

Zephyr lift at WP due to all the stops and slow-downs. I wish they would figure out a way to use that lift more efficiently since it is the main access to the top of WP and over to MJ
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Posted 29 September 2005 - 11:43 AM

A really slow chair is the White pass chair at Fernie. It's a BM quad and it is a piece of junk, and slow as hell.
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Posted 29 September 2005 - 06:40 PM

View Postboardski, on Sep 29 2005, 09:31 AM, said:

Zephyr lift at WP due to all the stops and slow-downs. I wish they would figure out a way to use that lift more efficiently since it is the main access to the top of WP and over to MJ


Umm it's not any slower then the olympic or gemini or pioneer or summit, The slowdowns and stops are mainly from downloading.
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Posted 01 October 2005 - 03:41 AM

That's what he said. Read the post- it says 'due to all the stops and slowdowns'.
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