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[Kicking Horse]

I just wanna say in colorado is that a lift is requird sound a alarm... for @ least 2 secs before the lift starts to move.

I listen for that when i'm near the lift.

Is this true for other States? (requires a alarm to sound when a lift is starting)

[SkiBachelor]

Deer Valley has the two second ring like in Colorado, but I think that's the only resort in Utah that does because TR was talking about that a while back.

[Dr Frankenstein]

Not in Quebec.

[Kicking Horse]

odd... i think that should be the case for any lift... Oh well

[Allan]

It may be code however lightning wrecks bells in lifts quite often in the summer, at least here. BTW it's not code here, and I think it may only be during operating season.

[KZ]

I believe they have that in California, but im not sure. The lift operators usually are holding down the button for a few seconds before the lifts starts very impatiently, so I wouldnt be suprised.

[book]

Just curious, has anyone ever had any incidents when spinning a lift while someone was somewhere that they shouldn't have been?

[Allan]

Oh yeah, people have sat on our chairs when they start moving, they're pretty quick at hopping off though :) People standing on ramps... All these people are ducking under bright orange caution tape and DANGER signs to get to where they are.

[Kicking Horse]

u just gotta listen here in colorado... for that alarm. When ever i go near a lift during non normal running times i look to see a. the lights are on b. Is there anyone around? c. Is the hut and Terminal Access open or unlocked. d. What time of the day it is.... e. Is it running??

[snowboardguy]

I've always noticed the bell ring when they start a lift in CA

[Allan]

Yes, during public operation the operators must communicate via the bell system before moving the lift. However some new lift just have bells that warn of starting equipment. Don't rely on bells as a warning. If there are barricades/ropes/ribbons stay out. Liftmech should be able to clear up the bell/code issue.

[liftmech]

I'll try.
In Colorado the CPTSB requires a (fire alarm-style) bell to ring for two seconds before and until the lift starts moving. For example, on the Flyer the lift is so long that it takes an additional three seconds for all the slack to be taken out of the line, so the bottom doesn't show any signs of movement until then. Thus the bell there rings for five seconds. On E, it only rings for the minimum two. This is on detachables ONLY, so as Allan said don't rely on bells for warning. On fixed grips, if we're moving them we'll try to hit the beeper before we start but we don't always remember in the summer. In the winter there will be an operator at both stations so they'll communicate by phone and beeper before the lift moves.

[Kicking Horse]

I thought the Colorado Tramway Board Requried All Lifts.... to have it?? I'll check that when i get home tomorrow.

and i will say this also,

If i get hurt while i'm taking pics it's my own damn fualt... And my parents are aware of that.

This post has been edited by pusher: 24 July 2004 - 09:12 AM

[Kicking Horse]

Section 3: Detachable grip aerial lifts

http://www.dora.stat...ay/Section3.HTM

3.1.1.12 Safety of operating and maintenance personnel. Provisions shall be incorporated in the aerial lift design to render the system inoperable when necessary for the protection of personnel working on the aerial tramway. See 3.3.1.1 for placement of applicable warning signs.

The aerial lift shall incorporate an audible warning device that automatically warns of an impending start of the lift. After the start button is pressed, the warning device shall sound for a minimum of 2 seconds before the lift starts, and shall continue until the ropeway begins to move. The audible warning device shall be heard inside and outside all terminals and machine rooms above the ambient noise level.

Section 4: Fixed grip aerial lifts

http://www.dora.stat...ay/Section4.HTM

4.1.1.12 Safety of operating and maintenance personnel. Provisions shall be incorporated in the aerial lift design to render the system inoperable when necessary for the protection of personnel working on the aerial lift. See 4.3.1.1 for placement of applicable warning signs.

The aerial tramway shall incorporate an audible warning device that automatically warns of an impending start of the tramway. After the start button is pressed, the warning device shall sound for a minimum of 2 seconds before the tramway starts, and shall continue until the ropeway begins to move. The audible warning device shall be heard inside and outside all terminals and machine rooms above the ambient noise level.

[liftmech]

That's interesting as none of our fixed grips have this feature and the inspector hasn't called us on it.

[SkiBachelor]

Maybe the older lifts have been godfathered in?

[Allan]

That's more than likely it.

[Kicking Horse]

SkiBachelor, on Jul 25 2004, 12:52 PM, said:

Maybe the older lifts have been godfathered in?
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I'll check when i get home tonight..... but i don't think so......

[floridaskier]

Sorry for being ignorant, but what does godfathered mean?

[Allan]

I think the term is grandfathered :) This would be when a lift is built - and then the code changes to include a new feature, the lift that is already built may not have to add the feature. Jeff I don't think this is something you can check, variances and such are issued to the ski area, and aren't included in the ANSI or Z98, just in the MOT's file for the hill and at the hill itself, at least that's how it works here.