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[poloxskier]

floridaskier, on Oct 23 2004, 03:43 PM, said:

On the second one, it looks like there's a poma lift to get up there, but on the first, it looks like its somewhere else. (the Village Pony Lift) Could you have taken that up the hill, or does it go somewhere else?
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The old maps didn't represent the base very well, the village pony shown on the old maps was a learning handle lift and was relocated when the camelback platter was installed. It was first moved to where the village carpets are today and was then removed when the carpets went in. The actual hill was only about a 50 ft. long climb but it wasn't very fun in ski boots. It made for a great warm up before race training. When the new base station went in there was signifigant excavation to eliminate the climb from the base resturant to the lift especially since its where most of the beginner lessons and tourists start on peak 9. Im going to be taking some pictures next weekend of the current base area and ill post those indicating with where the old QS base was in relation to the new HSS.

Breckenridge current trail map
Trail Map

[liftmech]

poloxskier, on Oct 22 2004, 08:32 PM, said:

Breckenridge's ribblet tripple "A" is actualy "A-1" the actual "A" lift was replaced by the original Quicksilver dopp. The line of A was the same as the old QS but ended close to the base of the current A chair.
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I also was told that the current A-chair was originally a double, but later modified to its current triple-wide status. Were both A-chairs in place at the same time?

The Super6 does appear to sit in a large hole; I looked for the original Quicksilver bottom terminal but it appears to have been dug out when the Super6 went in.

[poloxskier]

liftmech, on Oct 24 2004, 06:57 AM, said:

I also was told that the current A-chair was originally a double, but later modified to its current triple-wide status. Were both A-chairs in place at the same time?

The Super6 does appear to sit in a large hole; I looked for the original Quicksilver bottom terminal but it appears to have been dug out when the Super6 went in.
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Im not sure about them being doubbles but they were the original peak 9 chairs that were both in place at the same time. They were installed allong with B, C, and D riblet doubles. In order to get to the top of the mountain it took three lifts from the village base, A, A-1(current A chair) or D, then C or B. The reason for the hole that the HSS sits in is that the hill was about 10-15 higher and was excavated for ease of access. The old base terminal was to skiers right of the new terminal. I'm in the process of finding an old map showing the original set up of peak 9 but have so far been unsuccessful.

[poloxskier]

This weekend I was able to find out some new information about peak 9 at Breck. I have more research to do but I was able to see that it appears A-2, the current A lift, was at one point longer and extended to the Quicksilver base. I located a map from shortly after the instalation of the Quicksilver and I was suprised to see that they initialy just named it A-1 and didn't indicate it being any different from the fixed grip lifts on the mountain. The map I found hopefuly will be posted soon and there is a lift line cut below the current base of the lift so it was probably longer at one point.

[liftmech]

That's what I thought- if you look downhill from the current A-chair base, you look directly at the Maggie restaurant.

[poloxskier]

crazyskier91, on Jun 18 2004, 06:08 AM, said:

Keystone also used to have a lot of ghost lifts, that never or rarely ran, such as Packsaddle I, Saints John, Argentine.  Of course they have removed two of those, I lucked out one day when all three were open, I rode em all.
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Another that laid decrepid for a while was the Ida Belle. It wasnt used very much at all and in the late years chairs were spaced at odd intervals including three that were no further than 5 feet apart(Would lead to interesting loading). The Argentine has been running much more often than it did a few years ago, it is now running almost every day for at least a few hours. I also noticed that there are still some towers from the St. Johns still standing on the upper mountain in the trees. Fortunately I too was able to ride these lifts at least once while they were still in use.

[poloxskier]

I'm not completely sure but from comparing maps it appears that the Packsaddle 2 now A-51 was once longer and went to about the point where the runs in that bowl become just go devil. Also when they took out the Peru and Montezuma Heron-Pomas the run from the mid station of the peru to where the base was, Whistle Punk, was eliminated from the map and is now hardly ever open. The old bolt cages and concrete blocks from the original instals are still visible in early and late season. There also was, im not sure if its still there, an out house in the trees at the old midway station, for years it was all that remained of the load/unload station.

[Warren733]

Argintine is actally still important. Last time I went there, it was a normal Running lift, with a 1 to 5 minute line.