There is no rock attached to the bottom of the concrete. Clean brake between concrete and ledge. A few rebar holes will be core drilled today. That should answer the underlying ledge question.
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Sunday river spruce peak borvig triple incident- July 2016
Started by slider729, Jul 13 2016 05:42 AM
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Posted 21 July 2016 - 02:58 PM
Look at this picture ...
http://m.sunjournal....ivLift8Web3.jpg
You can see the cube of the concrete foundation, and under that, a chunk of the rock underneath it ... unless that's concrete buffer poured to even out the rock surface.
To the right of that, you can see all the rebar that pulled out of the holes.
http://m.sunjournal....ivLift8Web3.jpg
You can see the cube of the concrete foundation, and under that, a chunk of the rock underneath it ... unless that's concrete buffer poured to even out the rock surface.
To the right of that, you can see all the rebar that pulled out of the holes.
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Posted 21 July 2016 - 03:28 PM
_litz, on 21 July 2016 - 02:58 PM, said:
Look at this picture ...
http://m.sunjournal....ivLift8Web3.jpg
You can see the cube of the concrete foundation, and under that, a chunk of the rock underneath it ... unless that's concrete buffer poured to even out the rock surface.
To the right of that, you can see all the rebar that pulled out of the holes.
http://m.sunjournal....ivLift8Web3.jpg
You can see the cube of the concrete foundation, and under that, a chunk of the rock underneath it ... unless that's concrete buffer poured to even out the rock surface.
To the right of that, you can see all the rebar that pulled out of the holes.
I don't need to look at picture. I have been to the site at least 15 times now.
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Posted 21 July 2016 - 04:12 PM
_litz, on 21 July 2016 - 02:58 PM, said:
... unless that's concrete buffer poured to even out the rock surface.
Now you've got it. Pretty hard to match the shape of the ledge rock with a square form...
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Posted 18 August 2016 - 01:52 PM
The lift has been declared a loss and will be replaced. The top of the Locke Mountain lift will also be replaced.
http://sundayriver.c...eak-replacement
http://sundayriver.c...eak-replacement
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Posted 19 August 2016 - 06:41 AM
Very good idea about the top of Locke. Does that mean they confirmed the obvious?
BTW Sunday River, Locke Mountain was constructed in 1984, not 1985. Fall Line dbl and North Peak Triple were 1985. Both gone, and yes the top of North Peak was also pinned.
This could end up being a good lesson. Costly, but good. A little maintenance can go a long way towards knowing what is coming your way next. The right amount is even better. Listen to your crew, they are good guys!!
I hope they are being allowed to test the rest of their pinned foundations.
BTW Sunday River, Locke Mountain was constructed in 1984, not 1985. Fall Line dbl and North Peak Triple were 1985. Both gone, and yes the top of North Peak was also pinned.
This could end up being a good lesson. Costly, but good. A little maintenance can go a long way towards knowing what is coming your way next. The right amount is even better. Listen to your crew, they are good guys!!
I hope they are being allowed to test the rest of their pinned foundations.
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Posted 20 August 2016 - 07:47 PM
After all of Borvig's recent catastrophic lift failures, I'd be surprised if anything is reused and it all goes to scrap. Normally the towers could be reused if the lift has a similar capacity, but in this case, that's exactly what went wrong and needs to be replaced.
Doppelmayr is also replacing the top return on the Locke Mountain Triple, so that was likely inspected and found to be structurally deficient. Either that or they're just doing it for insurance/publicity reasons.
Doppelmayr is also replacing the top return on the Locke Mountain Triple, so that was likely inspected and found to be structurally deficient. Either that or they're just doing it for insurance/publicity reasons.
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Posted 22 August 2016 - 05:23 PM
snoloco, on 20 August 2016 - 07:47 PM, said:
After all of Borvig's recent catastrophic lift failures, I'd be surprised if anything is reused and it all goes to scrap. Normally the towers could be reused if the lift has a similar capacity, but in this case, that's exactly what went wrong and needs to be replaced.
Doppelmayr is also replacing the top return on the Locke Mountain Triple, so that was likely inspected and found to be structurally deficient. Either that or they're just doing it for insurance/publicity reasons.
Doppelmayr is also replacing the top return on the Locke Mountain Triple, so that was likely inspected and found to be structurally deficient. Either that or they're just doing it for insurance/publicity reasons.
Could be both for both of your reasons. Also a good excuse to redesign the unload, Locke has always been a tough unload. You either get sent fast towards the hard turn of Upper Punch or you need to make the hairpin turn coming down the ramp and onto the deck for T2. Wouldn't mind seeing that improved.
Not sure on the Spruce towers. Locke towers are not being replaced, so I don't think there is as much concern with the tower footings as the top return anchors. A bit more than half the towers from the old North Peak Triple were re-used for the NPX, and that was even with the increase to quad chairs (granted NPX was installed in 94 or 95, so the old footings were arguably almost 20 years younger at the time). I do know the 2 year old carpet loader will be kept and reused with the new Doppelmayr base terminal (and probably why it is staying a triple).
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Posted 23 August 2016 - 12:34 AM
machskier, on 22 August 2016 - 05:23 PM, said:
Could be both for both of your reasons. Also a good excuse to redesign the unload, Locke has always been a tough unload. You either get sent fast towards the hard turn of Upper Punch or you need to make the hairpin turn coming down the ramp and onto the deck for T2. Wouldn't mind seeing that improved.
Not sure on the Spruce towers. Locke towers are not being replaced, so I don't think there is as much concern with the tower footings as the top return anchors. A bit more than half the towers from the old North Peak Triple were re-used for the NPX, and that was even with the increase to quad chairs (granted NPX was installed in 94 or 95, so the old footings were arguably almost 20 years younger at the time). I do know the 2 year old carpet loader will be kept and reused with the new Doppelmayr base terminal (and probably why it is staying a triple).
Not sure on the Spruce towers. Locke towers are not being replaced, so I don't think there is as much concern with the tower footings as the top return anchors. A bit more than half the towers from the old North Peak Triple were re-used for the NPX, and that was even with the increase to quad chairs (granted NPX was installed in 94 or 95, so the old footings were arguably almost 20 years younger at the time). I do know the 2 year old carpet loader will be kept and reused with the new Doppelmayr base terminal (and probably why it is staying a triple).
Locke's new terminal will be three feet lower to help with the unload issues. New ramp and all.
North Peak Express was built in '97, BTW
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Posted 23 August 2016 - 06:47 AM
Yooper Skier, on 23 August 2016 - 12:34 AM, said:
Locke's new terminal will be three feet lower to help with the unload issues. New ramp and all.
North Peak Express was built in '97, BTW
North Peak Express was built in '97, BTW
Will you need to blast out any of the rock ledge or will it fit within the current landscape confines?
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