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#1 DonaldMReif

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Posted 19 January 2016 - 03:17 PM

From the Aspen Times: http://www.aspentime...lands-chairlift

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Skiers and snowboarders often don’t see eye to eye, but one skier with a serious chip on his shoulder took things to an entirely new level Sunday at Aspen Highlands.
The skier, a white man in his late 20s or early 30s, took offense to a seemingly innocuous comment by a snowboarder sitting next to him, and threw the man off the Loge Peak chairlift, said Seth Beckton of Aspen, the snowboarder who was pushed.
Beckton said he fell face-first 20 to 25 feet to the ground, but fortunately landed in a “large pocket of snow” and was not injured.
“I honestly thought I was dead,” Beckton said. “Because I didn’t know where we were (within the lift path). It’s not cool to think anyone would do that.”
The incident occurred at about 9:30 a.m., though Beckton, 28, did not report it until the end of the day. He said he was initially shaken by the incident and in a bit of shock, but since he wasn’t injured, he decided not to let it ruin his powder day.
It wasn’t until he told a couple friends what happened that he said he realized how serious the incident was.
“I should have been more aggressive in reporting it,” Beckton said Monday. “What if he does it to somebody else?”
Jeff Hanle, spokesman for Aspen Skiing Co., said Monday that if the incident had been reported earlier, ski patrol and other officials would have had a better chance of finding the skier. Still, the company plans a full investigation and will try to find witnesses and track down the skier, he said.
“This is not the kind of behavior we want on our mountain,” Hanle said. “We will do our best to find the person.”
Hanle said he spoke to Beckton on Monday and had no doubt the incident occurred.
Beckton said he and the skier barely spoke on the way up the mountain, though the man called attention to Beckton’s snowboard when they got on the lift, saying, “Oh, you’re a snowboarder, huh?”
It wasn’t until the top of the lift, at about 9:30 a.m., that the two men began chatting about the 5 to 6 inches of fresh powder on the ground, he said. Beckton said he made a comment about it being easier to get face shots of powder on skis as opposed to a snowboard.
In a Facebook post describing the encounter, Beckton quoted himself as saying, “To get t*ts-deep pow shots you just need to be on your edges.”
Whatever the comment, Beckton said the skier then turned to him and said, “Are you making fun of me?”
Beckton said he was “taken aback” by the question and wasn’t sure how to interpret it because the man was wearing a helmet and goggles and he couldn’t see his face.
“I thought it was kind of funny,” Beckton said. “I thought he might be joking. I wasn’t trying to offend anyone. I didn’t even think the comment was offensive.”
So, even though he actually hadn’t been making fun of the man, Beckton playfully answered his question and said, “Not really — but maybe.”
“If you think that’s funny,” the skier told him, “do you think this is funny?”
The skier then “grabbed me and pushed and pulled me off the chair,” Beckton said. A third man was riding the same chair, he said, though he didn’t know if the man was a friend of the skier’s or not.
The next thing he knew, Beckton was heading toward the ground in “an out-of-control fall” and somehow landed safely in the cushy powder.
The incident occurred near the lift’s last tower, 50 to 100 feet from the top, he said. He said the lift operator stopped the chair, though it traveled far enough before stopping to allow the skier to get off and disappear.
“I was really shooken up,” he said. “I was like, ‘Was that a joke? Did that really happen?’”
Beckton said he hiked out of the deep snow where he’d fallen and stood out on the ski run waiting to confront the man, but never saw him again.
“Because I wasn’t hurt, I wasn’t super-outraged,” he said. “I didn’t want to let it ruin my day. I decided to continue on my way.”
Beckton said he now wishes he’d reported it sooner and given ski patrol an opportunity to find the guy. Hanle said that would have been relatively easy.
The skier was wearing gray pants, a two-toned jacket that was one-third burgundy-colored and two-thirds tan, with an old, silver Giro helmet and older, Smith mirrored goggles, he said. He also thinks the man had facial hair.
“I think the guy was maybe on drugs,” Beckton said. “Maybe he was partying the night before and maybe he was tweaking out on something and he did that.”
Still, he said he’s happy to be in one piece.
“I’m completely fine,” Beckton said. “Fortunately, I was really lucky.”
Deputy Alex Burchetta, director of operations for the Pitkin County Sheriff’s Office, said Monday his agency is looking into the incident. Deputies are working with officials at Aspen Highlands, who are reviewing video taken at the mountain Sunday, he said.
As of Monday, Beckton had not filed a report with the Sheriff’s Office, Burchetta said. However, considering the gravity of the offense, Burchetta encouraged him to do so.
“I’m not sure ‘egregious’ is the word,” Burchetta said of the incident. “I’ve been skiing since I was 2, and I’ve never heard of anyone being thrown off a ski lift.
“It’s one of those things that stands out in your mind.”

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#2 SkiDaBird

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Posted 19 January 2016 - 05:55 PM

I don't really know how to reply. We're all the same, chill out.
And yeah, it's easier to shred on pow skis, but that's the entire point for you skiing on pow skis.

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Posted 19 January 2016 - 08:04 PM

Just when I thought the conflict died down... How unfortunate. I thought respect is supposed to get respect.
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#4 DonaldMReif

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Posted 19 January 2016 - 09:22 PM

To be honest, I have to show some skepticism over the story: like, if this happened during the morning, why did he wait until the afternoon to file a report? Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but someone falling or being pushed off a chair should've been seen by other people on the run or on the chairs behind them.
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Posted 20 January 2016 - 06:53 AM

I'm also a skeptic Donald but I've been on lifts and seen lifts with only 1 skier on them depending on the time and weather.

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#6 Walt Askier

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 07:26 AM

View PostDashHopes, on 20 January 2016 - 06:53 AM, said:

I'm also a skeptic Donald but I've been on lifts and seen lifts with only 1 skier on them depending on the time and weather.


Early in the morning on a powder day? I don't thinks so.

#7 pp492

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 07:37 AM

I'm skeptical too. I'm guessing he jumped and made up story.

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 08:53 AM

This is a weird one for sure...I think it could be legitimate, though. Even though a fall off a chairlift is major, it doesn't surprise me that there are people who would just keep boarding or skiing if they weren't hurt, especially on a powder day.

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 08:58 AM

well a few of you might be eating crow

http://www.aspentime...-chairlift-push

Seems as if they're investigating a local skier, if found, he could find himself charged with quite a few different crimes, all depends on the boarder and the DA. I can also see the ski area giving him a lifetime ban as well.

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 09:36 AM

I guess I'm eating crow

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 09:41 AM

cant we all just get along?

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 01:51 PM

I wouldn't report it until the end of the day either, it's a powder day.

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:34 PM

Interesting notes from the article ... upon investigation, there were apparently other witinesses, and the top operator stopped the lift briefly ...

(now that's baffling .. if the top operator saw someone fall off, and stopped the lift, why wasn't it called in?)

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 09:10 AM

Looks like they know who the accused is and will proceed with charges: http://www.aspentime...r-to-be-charged

I've also heard that the skier, who is local, has received a lifetime ban from all Aspen Skiing Company properties. Closest lift served area for him to go to now is Sunlight Mountain.

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 11:50 AM

Aside from whatever legal actions take place, I think two other questions have to be asked :

1) why did the lift stop ... and if it stopped because the operator saw the incident why wasn't action taken?

Even if the operator didn't know what actually happened, someone fell off his lift ... that's gotta be something that's re-portable and investigated by ski patrol ... if it's not, something is amiss in policy and procedure.

2) there was 3rd person on the chair ... why didn't he/she report it?

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Posted 23 January 2016 - 03:11 PM

I am actually surprised they did catch the guy and have to admit, I was also skeptical after considering all the facts. People who I have taught recently who are new to the sport are completely unaware there was ever tension between skiers and boarders. Even some people I have talked to who are younger but have been in the sport for awhile are unaware. Sunlight is a fun little area but is definitely not aspen. The lifetime ban, in itself is a harsh consequence but the outcome could have been so much worse for the snowboarder. No matter what we think of other people on the hill or what we think of what they have attached to their feet, we must keep our tempers in check, the snow is going to get tracked up no matter who is skiing, riding, telemarking, snow biking, or snowblading it.

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Posted 23 January 2016 - 03:19 PM

Another thought/ question: How does the lifetime ban work? What would stop the guy from just showing up with a wad of cash to purchase a day's ticket each time he wants to ski aspen?
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#18 DonaldMReif

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Posted 24 January 2016 - 08:44 AM

Yeah, that is a good question. I've never been to Aspen, but I don't think day lift tickets have the purchaser's name on them, do they?
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Posted 24 January 2016 - 09:57 AM

View Postboardski, on 23 January 2016 - 03:19 PM, said:

Another thought/ question: How does the lifetime ban work? What would stop the guy from just showing up with a wad of cash to purchase a day's ticket each time he wants to ski aspen?

Or an alias?
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Posted 24 January 2016 - 08:31 PM

View Postboardski, on 23 January 2016 - 03:19 PM, said:

Another thought/ question: How does the lifetime ban work? What would stop the guy from just showing up with a wad of cash to purchase a day's ticket each time he wants to ski aspen?


I'm sure that ASC would have an attorney draft a kindly worded letter that advised the offender that if he is caught trespassing that they would pursue additional legal action against him. You're right though, with enough helmet, hat, face mask coverage he wouldn't be recognized and could pay cash for his ticket or have someone else buy his ticket for him.





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