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[NHskier13]

This is the Middle Bowl Triple, at Snowbasin, Utah.
What I want to know is:
Why does the station look like a Doppelmay HSQ?
Does it serve any purpose?
and Why does the top station look the way it is as well? (Why not have just the bullwheel like on most other lifts?)

Bottom:



TOP:

This post has been edited by NHskier13: 19 December 2014 - 05:03 PM

[Andy1962]

Answer: So that the lift would look pretty for the Salt Lake 2002 Olympic Games (some Olympic ski events were held at Snowbasin )

[CH3skier]

The towers are now a deep green color like Deer Valley's lifts, just painted this summer.

[RibStaThiok]

Oh Thank God they got rid of that horrible grey color. Did they re-paint Wildcat as well? Some idiot painted Wildcat and the old Littlecat that stupid grey color back in the 90s and it really pissed me off.

To the original poster- Wildcat, Middle Bowl, and the old Little Cat Double received cosmetic changes to the terminals top and bottom terminals (except for the top of the old Little Cat) to match the terminal designs of the 2 new Gondolas and 1 new HSQ and the Mt. Allen Tram that were installed in 1998. I actually like em. They left the Stadeli barn house terminal looks on Becker and Porky.

[RibStaThiok]

Middle Bowl is a fun old 1979 CTEC to ride as well, especially when they have her going at 500FPM it can get very bouncy when they do an emergency stop or normal stop, lots of fun but you sure better be on your seat well.

[CH3skier]

RibStaThiok, on 19 December 2014 - 08:11 PM, said:

Oh Thank God they got rid of that horrible grey color. Did they re-paint Wildcat as well? Some idiot painted Wildcat and the old Littlecat that stupid grey color back in the 90s and it really pissed me off.

To the original poster- Wildcat, Middle Bowl, and the old Little Cat Double received cosmetic changes to the terminals top and bottom terminals (except for the top of the old Little Cat) to match the terminal designs of the 2 new Gondolas and 1 new HSQ and the Mt. Allen Tram that were installed in 1998. I actually like em. They left the Stadeli barn house terminal looks on Becker and Porky.

Wildcat is still the gray color. :(

[NHskier13]

Ah, I see that those other lifts still look like a Doppelmayr HSQ as well...
Wild Cat:

Little Cat:

Do the terminals serve any purpose in terms of the lifts running differently?

[NHskier13]

RibStaThiok, on 19 December 2014 - 08:13 PM, said:

Middle Bowl is a fun old 1979 CTEC to ride as well, especially when they have her going at 500FPM it can get very bouncy when they do an emergency stop or normal stop, lots of fun but you sure better be on your seat well.

I couldn't imagine skiing out west. I'm fairly certain that everywhere in New England has safety bars by law...

[Kicking Horse]

they are not called Safety Bars, they are COMFORT bars ONLY!!!!

They do not lock in place, so they cant be "safety" bars.

[RibStaThiok]

NHskier13, on 20 December 2014 - 06:29 AM, said:

Ah, I see that those other lifts still look like a Doppelmayr HSQ as well...
Wild Cat:

Little Cat:

Do the terminals serve any purpose in terms of the lifts running differently?

Not really. They still run the same. The only thing that was a drastic change for the 3 older lifts that got the new terminal exterrior was that at the same time, they converted Little Cat from counterweight tensioning to hydrolic. The other 2 lifts remain weight tensioning. The old Littlecat Double has since been removed and scrapped, and a new HSQ replaced it but not using the same lift line. It has shifted over to the left and now unloads up by Becker & Wildcat.

This post has been edited by RibStaThiok: 22 December 2014 - 02:50 AM

[SuperRat]

NHskier13, on 20 December 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

I couldn't imagine skiing out west. I'm fairly certain that everywhere in New England has safety bars by law...

Not in NH

[Andy1962]

Kicking Horse, on 20 December 2014 - 04:57 PM, said:

they are not called Safety Bars, they are COMFORT bars ONLY!!!!

They do not lock in place, so they cant be "safety" bars.

In the province of Ontario they are now known as restraining bars or restraining devices. Use of them is required by law. (As a passenger, you are required to lower the restraining bar and raise it at location points mandated by the provincial TSSA, the Ontario regulating authority on everything skilifts,elevators and escalators. There are now signs on every chairlift in Ontario telling you where to lower / raise the bar. If you don't like big brother standing over you, don't ski or snowboard, at least in these parts. :) . Sorry got off topic a bit, but could not resist a bit of playful poking about:) Merry Christmas to all and remember not to lean forward in a chairlift until your skis hit the ground at the top.

[william b]

SuperRat, on 22 December 2014 - 05:52 PM, said:

Not in NH

Actually NH does require restraint bars. NH administrative rule 307.01 details the amendments to the B. 77.1 standard. For each class of chairlift, NH requires a restraint bar that will not open under forward pressure.

wbl

[SuperRat]

william b, on 23 December 2014 - 07:57 AM, said:

Actually NH does require restraint bars. NH administrative rule 307.01 details the amendments to the B. 77.1 standard. For each class of chairlift, NH requires a restraint bar that will not open under forward pressure.

wbl

I hadn't heard that. Good to know. When was it amended?

[llamborghinii]

I believe that's actually the chairlift used in the movie "Frozen" (No, not the disney version!)

[RibStaThiok]

http://en.wikipedia....merican_film%29


That was filmed at Snowbasin and featured the Wildcat Triple. At least she made it into the moves before she gets scrapped.

[william b]

SuperRat, on 26 December 2014 - 12:55 PM, said:

I hadn't heard that. Good to know. When was it amended?

As is the case in most jurisdictions, I suspect, there is an adoption process for the B. 77.1 standard. In NH it includes approval by the 'rules committee' of the NH Legislature (the 3rd largest legislative body in the world). This process often takes two years, which means that if NH started the process of adopting the 2006 version of the standard in '06, then it would become effective by 2008. The 2011 version became effective last year.
As part of the adoption process, the New Hampshire Passenger Tramway Safey Board proposes a number of amendments to the standard. These amendments and the rest of the administrative requirements for New Hampshire can be found in Administrative Rules Pas 100-300... These are available on the NH Department of Safety website.
To complicate things, the National Forest folks have a faster adoption process, which means that when a new version comes out, the areas in NH that are on the National Forest (Loon, Waterville Valley, Attitash, Wildcat) need to comply with the new standard for the Federal Government, even though the State has not adopted them yet. There can be complications, but we can usually work them out.

wbl

[Backbowlsbilly]

The Mt Allen Tram at Snowbasin has the same terminal style used on Needles, Strawberry and John Paul to make it match with the other lifts for the Olympics. (Picture courtesy of http://www.remontees-mecaniques.net/)


Compare that to the terminals on the Lone Peak Tram, which was built 2 years earlier, both are 15 passenger Doppelmayr jig-back trams.

[teachme]

Is it just me or does the Mt. Allen tram station look totally wrong? A tilted HS terminal - come-on!

[RibStaThiok]

given the steep climb it has to make right off the bat, it is warranted.