I'm Voting Republican
#1
Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:17 AM
Just for the record, this video doesn't reflect my political views. I just posted it because it is funny.
If life gives you lemons, make lemonade. And then find someone whose life is giving them vodka and have a party.
-Ron White
#3 Guest_mjturley34_*
Posted 01 September 2008 - 02:32 PM
#4
Posted 01 September 2008 - 03:17 PM
mjturley34, on Sep 1 2008, 04:32 PM, said:
You gotta' eat a lot of nerd food while at the computer - then the screen will have a flavor... a familiar one at that.
I'll have to say that this kind of video spread about during a campaign serves no positive purpose. The average American voter is dumb enough and poorly informed enough as it is.
This post has been edited by Emax: 01 September 2008 - 03:20 PM
#5
Posted 02 September 2008 - 01:18 PM
Emax, on Sep 1 2008, 07:17 PM, said:
I'll have to say that this kind of video spread about during a campaign serves no positive purpose. The average American voter is dumb enough and poorly informed enough as it is.
pizza usually flavors the screen and keyboard of a laptop nicely.
#7
Posted 02 September 2008 - 05:15 PM
#8
Posted 02 September 2008 - 05:29 PM
Callao, on Sep 2 2008, 06:15 PM, said:
A very controlled response after the beating you took on this one!
William Shakespeare
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#10
Posted 03 September 2008 - 07:33 PM
We may be seeing Republicans redefined - and the end of beltway "business as usual".
#11
Posted 03 September 2008 - 08:32 PM
Emax, on Sep 3 2008, 08:33 PM, said:
We may be seeing Republicans redefined - and the end of beltway "business as usual".
All it takes is one good speech huh? Why so easy?
William Shakespeare
#12 Guest_mjturley34_*
Posted 03 September 2008 - 09:28 PM
#13
Posted 03 September 2008 - 10:12 PM
#14
Posted 04 September 2008 - 06:37 AM
hoodoo, on Sep 3 2008, 10:32 PM, said:
'Twern't that easy - I've been checking.
It wasn't so much the well-crafted speech as it was the individual revealed by it.
George Carlin warned us that if honesty were introduced into American politics, the whole system would collapse - that honesty would screw this country up. I'm willing to take that chance.
#15
Posted 04 September 2008 - 07:33 AM
Emax, on Sep 3 2008, 08:33 PM, said:
We may be seeing Republicans redefined - and the end of beltway "business as usual".
The only way a Republican "has" changed is they're not conservative any more.
If you really think the Republicans are going to change their ways in the future then the RNC's propaganda machine did it's job.
#16
Posted 04 September 2008 - 07:33 AM
This post has been edited by hoodoo: 04 September 2008 - 07:53 AM
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#17
Posted 04 September 2008 - 08:30 AM
hoodoo, on Sep 4 2008, 09:33 AM, said:
I wouldn't just pin the "head in the sand" problem on republicans. See, none of us are actually over there, and none of us are eye-witnesses. I'm not confident that most blabbing Americans know what is going on, or what they are talking about. The ones who do, aren't talking. Keep that in mind when watching the news. There are too many gullible advocates when what we really need are experts with reason, and real numbers for measurement.
As for the bashing thing, that's taken far on both sides. For instance, think of the whole "Palin's daughter is pregnant!" attack from liberals. It inappropriate. I commend Obama for his comment on the subject:
"I think people's families are off limits . . . It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories."
#18
Posted 04 September 2008 - 08:39 AM
Does anybody here have any good, hard numbers for the Iraqi War? I have hard numbers for climate stuff, but following war stuff isn't my thing--I am not an expert there. If somebody has real evidence, I'd love to be persuaded one way or another.
#19
Posted 04 September 2008 - 09:04 AM
Looks like fun , huh Callao?
Palin thinks the war in Iraq is a task from God... wonder what these guys think?
This post has been edited by hoodoo: 04 September 2008 - 09:18 AM
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#20
Posted 04 September 2008 - 09:23 AM
U.S. SPENDING IN IRAQ
Spent & Approved War-Spending - About $600 billion of US taxpayers' funds. In June 2008, President Bush signed a bill approving about 200 billion more for 2008, which brings the cumulative total to close to $800 billion.
U.S. Monthly Spending in Iraq - $12 billion in 2008
U.S. Spending per Second - $5,000 in 2008 (per Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on May 5, 2008)
Cost of deploying one U.S. soldier for one year in Iraq - $390,000 (Congressional Research Service)
Lost & Unaccounted for in Iraq - $9 billion of US taxpayers' money and $549.7 milion in spare parts shipped in 2004 to US contractors. Also, per ABC News, 190,000 guns, including 110,000 AK-47 rifles.
Missing - $1 billion in tractor trailers, tank recovery vehicles, machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades and other equipment and services provided to the Iraqi security forces. (Per CBS News on Dec 6, 2007.)
Mismanaged & Wasted in Iraq - $10 billion, per Feb 2007 Congressional hearings
Halliburton Overcharges Classified by the Pentagon as Unreasonable and Unsupported - $1.4 billion
Amount paid to KBR, a former Halliburton division, to supply U.S. military in Iraq with food, fuel, housing and other items - $20 billion
Portion of the $20 billion paid to KBR that Pentagon auditors deem "questionable or supportable" - $3.2 billion
Number of major U.S. bases in Iraq - 75 (The Nation/New York Times)
TROOPS IN IRAQ
Iraqi Troops Trained and Able to Function Independent of U.S. Forces - 6,000 as of May 2007 (per NBC's "Meet the Press" on May 20, 2007)
Troops in Iraq - Total 149,233, including 140,000 from the US, 4,000 from the UK, 900 from Poland, 650 from South Korea and 3,683 from all other nations
U.S. Troop Casualties - 4,142 US troops; 98% male. 91% non-officers; 82% active duty, 11% National Guard; 74% Caucasian, 9% African-American, 11% Latino. 19% killed by non-hostile causes. 54% of US casualties were under 25 years old. 72% were from the US Army
Non-U.S. Troop Casualties - Total 313, with 176 from the UK
US Troops Wounded - 30,509, 20% of which are serious brain or spinal injuries (total excludes psychological injuries)
US Troops with Serious Mental Health Problems - 30% of US troops develop serious mental health problems within 3 to 4 months of returning home
US Military Helicopters Downed in Iraq - 68 total, at least 36 by enemy fire
IRAQI TROOPS, CIVILIANS & OTHERS IN IRAQ
Private Contractors in Iraq, Working in Support of US Army Troops - More than 180,000 in August 2007, per The Nation/LA Times.
Journalists killed - 130, 86 by murder and 44 by acts of war
Journalists killed by US Forces - 14
Iraqi Police and Soldiers Killed - 8,530
Iraqi Civilians Killed, Estimated - A UN issued report dated Sept 20, 2006 stating that Iraqi civilian casualties have been significantly under-reported. Casualties are reported at 50,000 to over 100,000, but may be much higher. Some informed estimates place Iraqi civilian casualities at over 600,000.
Iraqi Insurgents Killed, Roughly Estimated - 55,000
Non-Iraqi Contractors and Civilian Workers Killed - 554
Non-Iraqi Kidnapped - 306, including 57 killed, 147 released, 4 escaped, 6 rescued and 89 status unknown.
Daily Insurgent Attacks, Feb 2004 - 14
Daily Insurgent Attacks, July 2005 - 70
Daily Insurgent Attacks, May 2007 - 163
Estimated Insurgency Strength, Nov 2003 - 15,000
Estimated Insurgency Strength, Oct 2006 - 20,000 - 30,000
Estimated Insurgency Strength, June 2007 - 70,000
QUALITY OF LIFE INDICATORS
Iraqis Displaced Inside Iraq, by Iraq War, as of May 2007 - 2,255,000
Iraqi Refugees in Syria & Jordan - 2.1 million to 2.25 million
Iraqi Unemployment Rate - 27 to 60%, where curfew not in effect
Consumer Price Inflation in 2006 - 50%
Iraqi Children Suffering from Chronic Malnutrition - 28% in June 2007 (Per CNN.com, July 30, 2007)
Percent of professionals who have left Iraq since 2003 - 40%
Iraqi Physicians Before 2003 Invasion - 34,000
Iraqi Physicians Who Have Left Iraq Since 2005 Invasion - 12,000
Iraqi Physicians Murdered Since 2003 Invasion - 2,000
Average Daily Hours Iraqi Homes Have Electricity - 1 to 2 hours, per Ryan Crocker, U.S. Ambassador to Iraq (Per Los Angeles Times, July 27, 2007)
Average Daily Hours Iraqi Homes Have Electricity - 10.9 in May 2007
Average Daily Hours Baghdad Homes Have Electricity - 5.6 in May 2007
Pre-War Daily Hours Baghdad Homes Have Electricity - 16 to 24
Number of Iraqi Homes Connected to Sewer Systems - 37%
Iraqis without access to adequate water supplies - 70% (Per CNN.com, July 30, 2007)
Water Treatment Plants Rehabilitated - 22%
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