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#61 brad82

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Posted 24 October 2008 - 09:42 AM

A very old 2 seat poma in la plagne (france) it took over 25mins to get to the top - not to mention the amount of times it stopped

#62 Petz

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 12:55 AM

I think the worldŽs longest chairlift is existing in Romania, 11453 ft length, 2620 height difference, 170 hp, cable diameter 35 mm built in 1972.

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#63 skier2

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 12:09 PM

View PostPetz, on Dec 8 2008, 12:55 AM, said:

I think the worldŽs longest chairlift is existing in Romania, 11453 ft length, 2620 height difference, 170 hp, cable diameter 35 mm built in 1972.

Describing text:
http://www.caransebe...ntelemic_en.htm

Pictures:
http://www.caransebe...lbum/index.html

Definitely not, as I can think of several off hand that are longer, like the Aspen gondola at 13,000 + feet long.

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 12:37 PM

View Postskier2, on Dec 8 2008, 12:09 PM, said:

Definitely not, as I can think of several off hand that are longer, like the Aspen gondola at 13,000 + feet long.


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#65 towertop

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 11:38 AM

Cyclone triple at Sunrise... Yan 1982 8200' 1165vert 342 chairs 22min ride. 32 towers! on the heavy side... 20 towers on the light side??? Fun to ride that light side, make sure your buddie hits an e-stop for ya'

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#66 Petz

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:14 PM

View Postskier2, on Dec 8 2008, 09:09 PM, said:

Definitely not, as I can think of several off hand that are longer, like the Aspen gondola at 13,000 + feet long.
As far as i know the Aspen gondola is longer but detachable, Muntelemic is a CLF in one piece.

One rather long CLF existed until the early eighties in Hintertux / Tirol / Austria from the "Sommerbergalm" up to the lower glacier location called "Spannaglhaus" ~ about 8400 feet long, picture from 1968

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#67 sseguin613

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:38 PM

I think the gondola at Sunshine Village in Banff, Alberta is longest gondola. I think it's about 15000 or more feet long.
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#68 Lift Dinosaur

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 01:36 PM

View PostPetz, on Dec 9 2008, 01:14 PM, said:

As far as i know the Aspen gondola is longer but detachable, Muntelemic is a CLF in one piece.

One rather long CLF existed until the early eighties in Hintertux / Tirol / Austria from the "Sommerbergalm" up to the lower glacier location called "Spannaglhaus" ~ about 8400 feet long, picture from 1968


Markus, Did that lift load in both directions from down in the valley?

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 09:50 PM

Longest gondola is disputed between the Silver Mountain Gondola and the 3 Vallees Express at Val Thorens, France, both over 16,000 feet.
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#70 Petz

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Posted 10 December 2008 - 12:16 PM

View PostLift Dinosaur, on Dec 9 2008, 10:36 PM, said:

Markus, Did that lift load in both directions from down in the valley?
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Hello Dino, yes it did. An intermediate loading station had been in the valley as you can see on the attachment pic besides the newer gondola.

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#71 Lift Dinosaur

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Posted 10 December 2008 - 04:39 PM

View PostPetz, on Dec 10 2008, 01:16 PM, said:

Hello Dino, yes it did. An intermediate loading station had been in the valley as you can see on the attachment pic besides the newer gondola.


Very nice - Thanks!

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#72 Petz

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 10:54 AM

View PostLift Dinosaur, on Dec 11 2008, 01:39 AM, said:

Very nice - Thanks!
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Pleased to help. Have attached another aerial picture from Hintertux done in 1973 and marked the lift with the red line.
Based on my knowledge this had been the longest chairlift the Wopfner company ever had built. My father told me that in winter season the owner mostly ran the lift at too high speed (until 2,8 m/sec. instead of the allowed 2,2) to provide passengers from freezing at the chairs.....Posted Image
Mr. Wopfner told my father that the owner had ordered the lift fitted with a (too strong) 260 hp electric motor to insure the possibility of higher speeds.....

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#73 Lift Dinosaur

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 12:12 PM

In the United States it is acceptable to run a double chairlift at 2.8 m/s (550 FPM).

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 03:53 PM

So I guess a 10,074ft high speed six pack is nothing to brag about. :)

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 07:45 PM

View PostKicking Horse, on Dec 11 2008, 04:53 PM, said:

So I guess a 10,074ft high speed six pack is nothing to brag about. :)


Not when the topic is "Long Lifts, Fixed Grip" :wink:

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#76 Petz

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 09:08 AM

View PostLift Dinosaur, on Dec 11 2008, 09:12 PM, said:

In the United States it is acceptable to run a double chairlift at 2.8 m/s (550 FPM).
But i think then you would need a conveyor entrance. In the late sixties the limit had been 2,2 m/sec and when starting the ride at 2,8 you needed no rollercoaster anymore..... :wink2:
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#77 Lift Dinosaur

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 04:31 PM

View PostPetz, on Dec 12 2008, 10:08 AM, said:

But i think then you would need a conveyor entrance. In the late sixties the limit had been 2,2 m/sec and when starting the ride at 2,8 you needed no rollercoaster anymore..... :wink2:


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#78 Petz

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 01:52 PM

One last picture showing the upper station of this genious chairlift; one trademark of Wopfner - lifts had been the concrete towers as you can see.

Following this chairlift there had been a T-bar named "Olpererlift", this one existed only one or two years cause it crossed the glacier floating direction. The poor guys had to move some of the towers every week.......Posted Image

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