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#1 SkiBachelor

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Posted 31 August 2005 - 09:17 AM

I just got the Mission Ridge HSQ installation pictures up.

http://skilifts.org/...onridge_hsq.htm
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Posted 31 August 2005 - 12:46 PM

Do you know where the new towers are coming from since WP is reusing the tubes?
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Posted 31 August 2005 - 09:30 PM

Outback Construction found a place down in the south to make the towers. It kind of sucks that the company that made them painted them right before they were loaded and everything got messed up kind of. There is duct tape that is still attached to the towers that won't come out and no paint where the towers picked up from to be loaded on to the trailers.

Also, the owner of Mission Ridge wanted to reuse the old tower ladders from the Riblet on the new ones and they look pretty funky and don't fit that well either.
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Posted 01 September 2005 - 04:56 AM

They're probably from the old Riblet 18" tower tubes, while most of the Poma tubes will be 24" to 30". That aside, looks good. It will be much nicer to have a detachable there instead of the old double, especially when it gets cold and windy up on that ridgetop.
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Posted 01 September 2005 - 12:36 PM

Cameron, Do you know if they are upgrading the lift in any way? for example, do you know if it will use a cadence chain of will it have tyre banks.
just curious
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Posted 01 September 2005 - 12:42 PM

It will use cadence chain for the first year at least. Snowmass at Aspen Snowmass is removing Coney Glade next year and Mission Ridge might buy the tire turnaround if it's cheap enough. I guess Snowmass sold the tire turn around on the Fanny Hill lift back to L-P of America. So maybe this is the one that John just got for the America Flyer?

Also, Mission Ridge has made no plans to built a carrier parking rail during high winds yet, although Craig Loop has suggested it. It's pretty much the same setup as the former Summit Express at WP, with it being a top drive and using both the old portal towers.
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Posted 01 September 2005 - 12:57 PM

SkiBachelor, on Sep 1 2005, 03:42 PM, said:

It will use cadence chain for the first year at least. Snowmass at Aspen Snowmass is removing Coney Glade next year and Mission Ridge might buy the tire turnaround if it's cheap enough. I guess Snowmass sold the tire turn around on the Fanny Hill lift back to L-P of America. So maybe this is the one that John just got for the America Flyer?

Also, Mission Ridge has made no plans to built a carrier parking rail during high winds yet, although Craig Loop has suggested it. It's pretty much the same setup as the former Summit Express at WP, with it being a top drive and using both the old portal towers.
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I have another question, Is the lift going to use those 6-spoke sheave trains. (At least I thought the summit express used those.)

BTW The coney glade lift uses only one tire turn around. The bottom terminal has a cadence chain where as the summit doesn't. I always thought that the lift was cool because of that which is why I am dissapointed that they are planning to remove it. :unsure:

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Posted 01 September 2005 - 01:22 PM

Yep, they were sitting in the parking lot when I was there. Basically, Larry (Mission Ridge owner) is reusing everything that he can for the new lift. However, the new lift at Mission Ridge is longer than the old Summit Express at WP so there might be some new sheaves and sheave trains on the lift. I just hope Larry doesn't try and use the sheaves left over from the old Riblet.
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Posted 01 September 2005 - 05:00 PM

I doubt the HSQ rope & grip profiles will work with the old Riblet sheaves. Great pictures!
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Posted 01 September 2005 - 05:20 PM

The thing about reusing the Riblet sheaves was just a little joke.
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Posted 05 September 2005 - 03:42 AM

SkiBachelor, on Sep 1 2005, 01:42 PM, said:

I guess Snowmass sold the tire turn around on the Fanny Hill lift back to L-P of America. So maybe this is the one that John just got for the America Flyer?

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No- we're getting a new one because Fanny Hill's old setup was different than the Flyer's.
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Posted 05 September 2005 - 03:45 AM

skiersage, on Sep 1 2005, 01:57 PM, said:

I have another question, Is the lift going to use those 6-spoke sheave trains. (At least I thought the summit express used those.)

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Summit was retrofitted with solid-hub 450mm sheaves. The older spoked 420mm ones wear out faster (at least this is what the guys at WP told me) because they weren't originnaly desined for the higher-speed applications. Any new sheaves that Mission has to buy will also be the 450 style.
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Posted 08 September 2005 - 09:04 PM

is it very common for a ski area to try to use so many original HSQ parts or retrofit with old 60's riblet parts? does this potentially become a concern for the integrity of the lift?

i for one am so stoked to see Mission Ridge get this lift in. Such a major undertaking for a 'little' ski area that gets 100-125,000 skiers a year. Hopefully the lift and snowmaking will break this area into a major washington player as everyone has hoped it would for ten years. I remember the fifteen minute ride on the old chair 2 and getting off to really thin snowpack compared to neighbour Stevens Pass.

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 09:14 PM

Craig did a series of tower pulls and tests on the towers that were reused from the Riblet to make sure they would be able to handle the dynamics of a high-speed quad. However, I'm not sure how the tower heads for the HSQ would be attached to the reused Riblet towers since the cross arms on the old Riblet were on the side rather than the top.
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Posted 08 September 2005 - 09:41 PM

SkiBachelor, on Sep 8 2005, 09:14 PM, said:

Craig did a series of tower pulls and tests on the towers that were reused from the Riblet to make sure they would be able to handle the dynamics of a high-speed quad. However, I'm not sure how the tower heads for the HSQ would be attached to the reused Riblet towers since the cross arms on the old Riblet were on the side rather than the top.
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what about the engines to drive this lift in its new location? any upgrades to that equipment? this sounds like it is longer and more vertical rise at Mission than when it was at White Pass?

did they say how much this chair purchase and install is costing Mission?

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 10:07 PM

I talked to Craig about this and he said that nothing had to be changed with the lift which I thought was kind of strange. However, maybe with it only being a few hundred feet longer, the lift didn't need a new drive or gearbox. Plus the lift's initial capacity will only be at 1,800.

The HSQ that Mission Ridge bought was from Winter Park and not White Pass.

As for the price, I didn't feel like asking Craig that since that's personal information. The entire project though with snow making and the new lift is supposed to cost $2.5 million.
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 03:01 AM

what lift is it replacing? like the number?

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Posted 09 September 2005 - 06:15 AM

Its replacing Chair 2 at Mission Ridge, a Riblet double.
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 06:19 AM

They should attach the new towerheads to the old ones kind of like this. It would look weird but it may work.
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 08:02 AM

Timberline, Oregon has replaced three Riblet double chairs with high speed quads, and in all three cases the existing Riblet towers were used to support the new quad tower heads. The towers on one lift (Stormin' Norman) had to be "stiffened" with concrete encasings at each tower's base... but otherwise the design seems to work fine.





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