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[Bogong]

http://www.skilifts....attach_id=18378
Yes seilbahnbilder, these photos are definitely of the same lift.


The Crackenback chair was built at the Australian resort of Thredbo in 1958 and lengthened in 1962. It was 1835 metres long with a vertical gain of 560 metres.

It replaced a nutcracker tow on the same route. In 1990 it was replaced by a Doppelmayr combined gondola - quad chair.

[seilbahnbilder.ch]

Hey, many thanks! :)

[jclark]

seilbahnbilder.ch, on 25 February 2010 - 04:08 PM, said:

@ all: I already posted the pictures of this Mueller double:

I wonder if this could be of the Oh No Double at Haystack Vermont:

seilbahnbilder.ch, on 25 February 2010 - 04:08 PM, said:

In the same folder I also found these pictures of a very early Poma double:








The Poma and the Mueller pictures are developed onto the same type of paper etc... so I think that these pictures were taken in the same ski area. If someone knows some old very old Poma doubles, it might be possible to find the appropriate location.

This is a chance that Poma double is from the old Petersburg Pass ski area in New York. They had an early 60s Poma double that was on a counterclockwise rotation. Chairs and towers looked identical to your photos. I only have photos of the bottom terminal during construction, so I'm not sure if they're identical (unable to compare the bridge tower). I also don't seem to have any photos of the top terminal to see if it was a floating bullwheel or not.

Nonetheless, Haystack and Petersburg Pass were a relatively short drive from each other, so it's possible that's what the photos are.

This post has been edited by jclark: 30 June 2010 - 04:42 AM

[seilbahnbilder.ch]

Many thanks for your information! If I compare the pictures pretty sure that "my" lift is the one in Haystack. Is it still in operation?

[svlifttech68]

I've never seen a floating bullwheel setup like that. Bizzarre.

[teachme]

seilbahnbilder.ch, on 20 February 2010 - 01:40 PM, said:

Lift No. 6:

On the backside is written that this picture was taken at Mount Norquay (Banff), but according to Lift-World.info there is no Mueller double any more. Who knows the Name of this chairlift?

Lift 6 looks Rocky Mountains (Background) and looks Parks Canada (hut in background). Perhaps an old pick of the Yellow (??) lift at Louise?

[SkiLiftsRock]

Lift Dinosaur, on 25 February 2010 - 05:25 PM, said:

OMG - floating bullwheels...RUN!

Dino

How well does floating bullwheels work? If the haul rope snaps....I know where I don't want to be standing...

[Allan]

SkiLiftsRock, on 09 August 2010 - 04:00 PM, said:

How well does floating bullwheels work? If the haul rope snaps....I know where I don't want to be standing...

If a haul rope snaps.. I wouldn't want to be within 1000 feet of ANY lift!

[Andoman]

SkiLiftsRock, on 09 August 2010 - 04:00 PM, said:

How well does floating bullwheels work? If the haul rope snaps....I know where I don't want to be standing...

worlds largest frisbee

[SkiLiftsRock]

Andoman, on 09 August 2010 - 05:17 PM, said:

worlds largest frisbee

And Heaviest!

[Peter Pitcher]

I have had plenty of experience with floating bullwheels, generally they work just fine. One problem was that the guide sheaves are depression sheaves-- they have to hold up the bull wheel-- take a shock load with every carrier because the top of the grips hit them each time. This causes fatigue in the iron that supports these sheaves and eventually a failure...deropement...evacuation...etc. I can't recall ever having heard of a haul rope snapping, I don't think that a snapping haul rope is anything to be concerned about. Floating bullwheels are a design from the past, they worked fine, brought many skiers up the hill and there are probably still some around. As far as I know they never caused any injuries just inconveniences. The grip that was used on those old Poma chairlifts became the Miner Denver grip which was then copied and improved into the YAN D and then the YAN T grip which are widely used today. Someone mentioned that this grip was originally a Carlo Savio grip but I know nothing about that.

[seilbahnbilder.ch]

teachme, on 08 August 2010 - 04:09 PM, said:

Lift 6 looks Rocky Mountains (Background) and looks Parks Canada (hut in background). Perhaps an old pick of the Yellow (??) lift at Louise?

Lift-World is incorrect in this case. This chairlift is definitly at Mount Norquay, it's the North American.

Ok, if I summarize:

Lift 1: Blue Chair / Silver Star / Canada (?)
Lift 2: Inferno Chair / Grouse Mountain / Canada
Lift 3: Tillicum Valley Chair / Tillcum Valley / Canada
Lift 4: Tee Pee Town Chair / Sunshine Village(Banff) / Canada (?)
Lift 5: Tee Pee Town Chair / Sunshine Village (Banff) / Canada
Lift 6: North American Chair / Mount Norquay (Banff) / Canada
Lift 7: Still no idea, but it could be in Norway.
Lift 8: Sainte Anne Gondola / Mount Sainte Anne / Canada

Some more information about Petersburg Pass and Haystack?

[WBSKI]

COOL! I never found any photos of Tillicum Valley before! Looks like they had a mini luge run there.

[jclark]

seilbahnbilder.ch, on 08 July 2010 - 09:29 AM, said:

Many thanks for your information! If I compare the pictures pretty sure that "my" lift is the one in Haystack. Is it still in operation?

Sorry, I hadn't checked back into this thread.

The Oh No Double at Haystack was taken out of active use pretty close to a decade ago. I believe it was retrofitted with CTEC chairs sometime in the 80s or early 90s (which have since been resold I think). The ski area itself has operated a grand total of 2 days in the past half decade or so.

[Yooper Skier]

There are two Mueller doubles operating at Ski Brule in Upper Michigan. My guess is they are both relocations.

[RandomDave]

jclark, on 25 September 2010 - 05:58 AM, said:

Sorry, I hadn't checked back into this thread.

The Oh No Double at Haystack was taken out of active use pretty close to a decade ago. I believe it was retrofitted with CTEC chairs sometime in the 80s or early 90s (which have since been resold I think). The ski area itself has operated a grand total of 2 days in the past half decade or so.

Used to ski there. They retrotfitted the life with CTEC chairs I believ in the 87-88 season, but kept the Mueller double-clamp style grip. A few years later CTEC also built a new, modern style return station at the top.