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[vons]

I doubt lone moose replacement this summer, unless Big Sky has already started to replace it. They may be getting a jump on next year by lining up a buyer for it now.

[Lift Dinosaur]

vons, on 02 September 2010 - 01:53 PM, said:

I doubt lone moose replacement this summer, unless Big Sky has already started to replace it. They may be getting a jump on next year by lining up a buyer for it now.

...a buyer with lots of Ca$h!

Dino

[boardski]

vons, on 02 September 2010 - 01:53 PM, said:

I doubt lone moose replacement this summer, unless Big Sky has already started to replace it. They may be getting a jump on next year by lining up a buyer for it now.

Does anyone know what the plans are with the Lone Moose area? It didn't seem like there were enough people skiing that section of the mountain to warrant a lift upgrade. A better place for a lift upgrade would be the Lone Peak chair or installing another lift in the gondola line. Their website does not say much about it.

[SkiBachelor]

Whitefish Resort (aka Big Mtn) has plans of installing a 1972 triple that it purchased from Holiday Mountain (Not Holiday Valley, but a theme park) for the 2011 season. The lift comes from an East Coast ski area that went out of business, but was never installed at the theme park.

http://www.flatheadn...16635498_01.txt

It seems odd to purchase such an old lift and then having to spend the money to upgrade it, when there are quite a few newer lifts on the market.

[SuperRat]

SkiBachelor, on 01 September 2010 - 09:28 PM, said:

It looks like a new lift may be coming to Big Sky, MT this summer. Boyne has setup a website for help sell its Lone Moose triple chair, which was installed in 1999 and is the former Santiago lift from Keystone, CO.

http://lonemoosetriple.com

I must admit, I find it very surprising that there are no press releases about what is replacing it and even more surprising that Boyne has decided sell the lift rather than relocate it to another one if its resorts, which it typically does.

Boyne may be involved at some level but the Lone Moose Triple is owned by Lone Moose Meadows, the development at the base of the triple, and leased to Big Sky to operate it. The website's domain name is registered to a person with a Voyager Group (parent company of the developer) e-mail address.

http://www.lonemoose...emoose_faq.html

This post has been edited by SuperRat: 03 September 2010 - 09:00 AM

[Peter Pitcher]

I think I will go out on a limb and say what I think. Both White Pine and Lone Moose would like to sell their lifts to raise cash. It is unlikely that any of these lifts will be sold but if they were they would not be replaced.

[Peter Pitcher]

What manufacture lift is it and which ski area did it come from? Anybody know?

[SkiBachelor]

Peter Pitcher, on 03 September 2010 - 09:09 AM, said:

What manufacture lift is it and which ski area did it come from? Anybody know?

The lift is a Hall.

[vons]

a liquidity issue, do you think White Pine wold close or become a cat operation if they main lifts are sold off?

[Peter]

In regards to the lift going in at Whitefish, it came from King Ridge, New Hampshire which closed in 1995.

[Peter]

I sent an email inquiring about the future of Lone Moose. I'll update if I hear anything back. For now it is a mystery since both replacement and loss of that terrain seem unlikely.

Also, please note that I moved the posts about Lone Moose and White Pine, WY into this 2011 thread since they are more likely to be replaced next summer than in 2010.

[Peter Pitcher]

vons, on 03 September 2010 - 09:53 AM, said:

a liquidity issue, do you think White Pine wold close or become a cat operation if they main lifts are sold off?

I don't think we will ever know, these lifts like most lifts are worth more where they are instead of being sold off. Relocated lifts make the most sense when they are being upgraded and replaced. Think about Lone Moose: $575K for the lift 75K+ to take it down and another 300 to put it up you are looking at close to a mil for an old YAN with dopps upgrades. Why not buy a new one for 1.5 like Bridger is doing. I think those lifts are going to stay where they are which is probably where they belong.

[boardski]

It seems like removing Lone Moose with no replacement would close a lot of terrain at Big Sky and hamper the condo & lodge access to that section of the mountain. It would not make much sense. Hopefully they can work something out to keep a lift over there.

[Peter]

boardski, on 03 September 2010 - 05:42 PM, said:

It seems like removing Lone Moose with no replacement would close a lot of terrain at Big Sky and hamper the condo & lodge access to that section of the mountain. It would not make much sense. Hopefully they can work something out to keep a lift over there.

Not to mention the possible loss of the "Biggest Skiing in America" tagline.

Not sure how this fits in, but Spanish Peaks had plans to add a lift from the bottom of Southern Comfort to the top of Lone Moose.

[alexboesen]

More support that a replacement for Siberia is on the way at Squaw.

"Well, you always have to see what available capital is around, but there will certainly be a balance of capital dollars directed more evenly to an array of projects. On one hand, at present, Siberia Chair needs to be replaced. We’re already in the process of a pretty big renovation of the Olympic House. Many systems need to be updated, especially our Central Reservation System. Squaw Valley Ski Corp is not just about uphill lift transportation." Andy Wirth, Squaw Valley CEO

http://www.unofficia...ome/4/5829.html

[Peter]

http://www.vancouver...8413/story.html

Marmot Basin is replacing the Paradise triple with a high speed quad. The triple will then be moved to replace the School House T-Bar.

[Lift Dinosaur]

alexboesen, on 07 September 2010 - 09:21 PM, said:

More support that a replacement for Siberia is on the way at Squaw.

"Well, you always have to see what available capital is around, but there will certainly be a balance of capital dollars directed more evenly to an array of projects. On one hand, at present, Siberia Chair needs to be replaced. We’re already in the process of a pretty big renovation of the Olympic House. Many systems need to be updated, especially our Central Reservation System. Squaw Valley Ski Corp is not just about uphill lift transportation." Andy Wirth, Squaw Valley CEO

http://www.unofficia...ome/4/5829.html

More evidence that they will continue to finish Olympic House and upgrade their Central Reservation System BEFORE they upgrade Siberia.

"Squaw Valley Ski Corp is not just about uphill lift transportation."
Dino

This post has been edited by Lift Dinosaur: 05 November 2010 - 05:08 PM

[liftmech]

A telling comment. So, if a company with SKI in its name isn't just about lift transportation (and doesn't build skis) then what are they about? Seems to me that lodging is secondary to skiing; dozens (no longer hundreds, unfortunately) of ski AREAS with no lodging will vouch for that. I will agree that once you've got the amenities, you've got to maintain them. It just seems to me that you'd want to take care of your primary draw first.
$wooden nickel

[svlifttech68]

You are correct Dino.
I'd be suprised to see a new Siberia go in next summer but I'm staying hopeful.

[Peter]

Village awards contract for new Pisgah T-bar
December 14, 2010 - By CHRIS KNIGHT, Enterprise Senior Staff Writer


SARANAC LAKE - The village Board of Trustees has accepted a low bid of $374,769 from Doppelmayr CTEC for the purchase and installation of a new T-bar lift at the village-run Mount Pisgah Ski Center.

Only one other company submitted a bid - Leitner-Poma of America in the amount of $633,906.

Asked about the large price difference in the bids at Monday night's village board meeting, Treasurer Paul Ellis said it appeared Leitner-Poma "wasn't necessarily interested in the work."

"They were invited to a pre-bid meeting, which they didn't attend," he said. "They didn't inspect the facilities. I think they probably had enough work and if they were going to do it, they were going to do it at a premium price."

To pay for the new lift, the village plans to use part of a $600,000 grant it received from the state and money raised by the Friends of Mount Pisgah. Work on the project will begin at the end of the 2010-11 ski season.