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Okay, thanks to both of you for the information.

SkiBachelor, on 13 March 2009 - 07:24 PM, said:

I think the reasoning for this is that the lift was built in 1994. While the United States offered only the UNI in 1994, Doppelmayr began constructing UNI-Ms in other countries, such as Canada. However, I don't think Doppelmayr had released the DT grip yet in 1994, so that would be the reason for the UNI-M terminal with DS grips.
This post has been edited by Skier123: 23 July 2010 - 08:23 AM

LiftTech, on 08 September 2009 - 09:55 AM, said:

Wasn't there talk a couple years ago about putting top on the lower terminal? Not sure if that would have been purely for cosmetic reasons.

jaytrem, on 23 July 2010 - 04:17 PM, said:

I read an article about that too. I believe it was simply to make maintenance easier,.

Skier123, on 22 July 2010 - 07:04 PM, said:

Actually the DT grip and UNI-M series were introduced to Austria in 1993.

It might still be possible that the DT wasn't introduced to Canada until 1995 though. Canada and the US tend to be on the same page most of the time in terms of ski lifts. For example, Leitner-Poma operates in Canada and Doppelmayr CTEC distributes the UNI-GS in Canada.

Skier123, on 26 July 2010 - 05:04 PM, said:

Doppelmayr did introduce its UNI stations for the DT grip to North America in 1995. The construction survey lists 10 detachable lift with DT grips in New Hampshire, Vermont, Colorado, California and British Columbia. The UNI stations for DTs had the letter designations S for short, M for medium or L for long depending on the terminal length. UNI-M must have been the most common because that is the name most people use for all the 1995-2002 UNIs. The '95 UNI I work on at Loon Mt is a UNI-M drive, UNI-S return.
This post has been edited by SuperRat: 31 July 2010 - 08:21 AM

SuperRat, on 31 July 2010 - 08:20 AM, said:

How would one go about distinguishing the 1995-2002 UNIs from the earlier version then? Because I'm pretty sure that the earlier UNIs were available in multiple lengths too, correct?

Skier123, on 04 August 2010 - 11:20 AM, said:

It doesn't surprise me if the UNI terminals for the DS grip came in different lengths. The enclosure design changed when the UNI went DT although it was a natural progression. The Doppelmayr CTEC Identification Page has some good pictures: http://www.skilifts....iftid_dctec.htm

SuperRat, on 05 August 2010 - 04:55 PM, said:

I mean how would one go about distingusihing the two in terms of model numbers? I always used to differentiate the two by reffering to them as UNI and UNI-M, but I now realize that that's not correct. And sorry to be asking so many questions, but does anyone have a picture of a UNI-L?

Skier123, on 05 August 2010 - 08:40 PM, said:

As far as I know referring to the 89-94 terminals simply as UNI is accurate regardless of length. I'm sure those who care about these sort of things will know what you're talking about. Using UNI-M for the 95-02 terminals should also suffice because it has become the common name for all the early DT grip terminals. To be more accurate you'd have to learn to distinguish the different terminal lengths by sight. Count windows maybe? I don't know of a picture of a UNI-L, they're probably the least common length. Here are some pictures of the Kancamagus Quad at Loon: http://www.skilifts..../kanc/kanc.html The difference between the Medium drive and Short return isn't much.

I hope this helped.
This post has been edited by SuperRat: 06 August 2010 - 02:11 PM

SuperRat, on 06 August 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Okay, thank you for the clarification.

Some of the Telluride HSQs have the maintenance bay terminal at one end and a standard UNI-M at the other.

Skier123, on 05 August 2010 - 08:40 PM, said:

The only UNI's from the 1995-2002 era that I know of that could be UNI-L's are gondola terminals since they are usually bigger and longer than chairlift terminals.

Skier123, on 05 August 2010 - 08:40 PM, said:

I have no idea if either actually is a UNI-L, they both could very well be UNI-M, but the Summit Six at Alpine Meadows and American Express at Stratton both appear to have longer terminals than most of the UNIs from that generation. Could someone clarify if these 2 are UNI-m or UNI-L?

Skier123, on 07 September 2009 - 12:52 PM, said:

When this lift was modified by Poma, they put a glass top on the drive terminal to protect the drive components. The top is the same as the bottom, except that it did not have the glass top. They put a glass top on it in 2012, so now the top looks just like the bottom. The glass top on the drive terminal looks like a Poma Challenger terminal because that was the design used when that lift was modified. The bottom terminal got the challenger glass top and not the Omega because they wanted the terminals to look the same.

Mountain Creek, NJ uses UNI-S drive terminals and UNI-M tension/return terminals on their two high speed quads. Their Cabriolet may have UNI-L terminals since it is a gondola and gondola terminals are usually bigger. These are the pictures.

UNI-S drive on the South Peak Express.




UNI-M returns on the South Peak Express and the Bear Peak Express.





This is the Cabriolet's return/tension terminal.

skiersage, on 14 March 2009 - 02:57 PM, said:

also the modonna 1 lift at smugglers notch vermont has a old hall bottom drive with some existing hall towers some modern ctec towers and a ctec return station...it was a 2001 retro fit to up the number of operating days due to wind

I wonder if it is technically possible to use a Poma 2 mast and 3 mast detach terminal in the same lift. If they have the same rope gauge, I don't see why not.

If they're designed for the same grip it should work.