Bruce Mound is supposed to be a cool little area with a boatload of potential. The guy who owns the shop I frequent for my gear has a cabin about 2 miles away and they plan to get snowmobiles so that they can cruise through the woods to go to the ski area, backcountry style.
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Possible Lifts for Summer 2009
Started by SkiBachelor, Feb 02 2008 08:30 PM
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Here is what I've got so far for this coming summer construction, all of these lifts have been officially mentioned at least once.
1 Holiday Valley, NY Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Morningside Express
2 Sun Valley, ID Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 River Run Gondola
3 Whistler Blackcomb, BC Doppelmayr CTEC Cabriolet Timing Flats
4 Whistler Blackcomb, BC Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 Kadenwood
5 Marmot Basin, AB Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Tranquilizer Express
6 Bruce Mound, WI Used Triple
7 Eaglecrest, AK Used Double Mid Mountain
8 Sleeping Giant, WY Used Triple
9 The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Triple Hyak
10 The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Double Hidden Valley
Anyone know the status of Steamboat's second gondola that was previously planned to go somewhere through the village?
1 Holiday Valley, NY Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Morningside Express
2 Sun Valley, ID Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 River Run Gondola
3 Whistler Blackcomb, BC Doppelmayr CTEC Cabriolet Timing Flats
4 Whistler Blackcomb, BC Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 Kadenwood
5 Marmot Basin, AB Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Tranquilizer Express
6 Bruce Mound, WI Used Triple
7 Eaglecrest, AK Used Double Mid Mountain
8 Sleeping Giant, WY Used Triple
9 The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Triple Hyak
10 The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Double Hidden Valley
Anyone know the status of Steamboat's second gondola that was previously planned to go somewhere through the village?
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I read an article not to long ago that mentioned Gore has placed an order for the lift mentioned in this article...
http://www.onthesnow.com/news/a/4227/gore-...nector-approved
Unfortunatly I wasn't able to find it again. So hopefully next year they'll have a new 3800 ft triple connecting the ski bowl to the main mountian. That would be 3 new chairs in 3 years, not too bad.
This website mentions it's been ordered. But it's not the article I remember, and I know it's never a good idea to trust real estate sites.
http://www.broderick....com/homes.html
http://www.onthesnow.com/news/a/4227/gore-...nector-approved
Unfortunatly I wasn't able to find it again. So hopefully next year they'll have a new 3800 ft triple connecting the ski bowl to the main mountian. That would be 3 new chairs in 3 years, not too bad.
This website mentions it's been ordered. But it's not the article I remember, and I know it's never a good idea to trust real estate sites.
http://www.broderick....com/homes.html
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I know Boyne Highlands has the old chair 7 from Sunday River somewhere. I don't know when it is supposed to be installed but I would think it would be either this year or next. Just something to look out for.
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Posted 03 February 2009 - 02:11 PM
skiersage, on Feb 3 2009, 12:02 PM, said:
I know Boyne Highlands has the old chair 7 from Sunday River somewhere. I don't know when it is supposed to be installed but I would think it would be either this year or next. Just something to look out for.
Is that one going to go out past the north face lift??
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Leitner-POMA has a contract to build the new tram between Roosevelt Island and Manhattan this year.
http://www.denverpos...ess/ci_11702842
The article also states that Leitner-POMA only has a three orders for lifts this year and the one they are currently constructing in the photo is being shipped to France!
http://www.denverpos...ess/ci_11702842
The article also states that Leitner-POMA only has a three orders for lifts this year and the one they are currently constructing in the photo is being shipped to France!
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SkiBachelor, on Feb 15 2009, 04:25 PM, said:
The article also states that Leitner-POMA only has a three orders for lifts this year and the one they are currently constructing in the photo is being shipped to France!
Just when Poma got their big factory suddenly there is almost no market for lifts. It is funny but also sad.
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Colorado's first lift, installed north of Gunnison in 1939, was a converted mine tram borrowed from an abandoned mine near Tincup, according to Bill Fletcher. Fletcher chronicles the history and modern expansions of ski lifts on his website coloradoskihistory.com
It sounds as though Bill F stole your site Brad.
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This year continues to look dismal for lift construction. Here's what's confirmed:
Holiday Valley, NY Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Morningside Express
Sun Valley, ID Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 River Run Gondola
Marmot Basin, AB Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Tranquilizer Express
Roosevelt Island Tram, NY Leitner-Poma Tram Roosevelt Island Tram
Bruce Mound, WI Used Triple
Eaglecrest, AK Used Double Mid Mountain
Sleeping Giant, WY Used Triple
The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Triple Hyak
The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Double Hidden Valley
Also possible is the Timing Flats cabriolet, Orange chair replacement, and/or Kadenwood Gondola on Whistler.
Holiday Valley, NY Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Morningside Express
Sun Valley, ID Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 River Run Gondola
Marmot Basin, AB Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Tranquilizer Express
Roosevelt Island Tram, NY Leitner-Poma Tram Roosevelt Island Tram
Bruce Mound, WI Used Triple
Eaglecrest, AK Used Double Mid Mountain
Sleeping Giant, WY Used Triple
The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Triple Hyak
The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Double Hidden Valley
Also possible is the Timing Flats cabriolet, Orange chair replacement, and/or Kadenwood Gondola on Whistler.
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It sounds as though Bill F stole your site Brad.
notice how the writer also managed to spell bill's last name wrong.
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Looks like nothing will be happening on Peak 6 this summer at Breckenridge.
USFS studies lynx habitat around Peak 6 in Breckenridge
New habitat standards for rare cat could affect Breckenridge ski area plan
By Bob Berwyn
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BRECKENRIDGE — A new lynx conservation plan could be a factor in whether Breckenridge Ski Resort will be allowed to expand onto Peak 6.
Forest Service officials charged with reviewing the resort’s proposal said they are studying the forest around Peak 6 area to determine if they can make the lynx plan mesh with the ski area’s desire to add new terrain.
The resort has proposed adding several hundred acres of new trails and above-treeline skiing.
Similar studies are under way across the entire eastern half of the White River National Forest, according to biologist Liz Roberts.
Resort officials aren’t sure how the new lynx studies will affect the timing of Peak 6 plan. They hope the Forest Service will complete a draft environmental study this summer.
“It is difficult to predict what this might do to the timing of the project one way or the other,” said Breckenridge Ski Resort spokeswoman Kristen Petitt. “These studies are a normal part of the process that the Forest Service conducts for a project like this.”
The resort is testing some wildlife management systems and has indicated it would be willing to negotiate with the Forest Service, she said.
“We are not aware of any specific lynx activity, but we do believe that we have areas across the mountain that could support lynx habitat connectivity,” Pettit said.
The terrain expansion is slated for an area that’s designated for ski-resort development by the White River National Forest plan. The preliminary version of the plan called for about 450 acres of new terrain served by a single lift. (See the original scoping notice online at www.dillonrangerdistrict.com/projects.htm.)
The new studies could affect the review and approval process, said Roger Poirer, winter sports administrator for the White River National Forest.
“The Southern Rockies lynx amendment supercedes the forest plan,” Poirer said, “We got new direction, and we’re trying to figure out a new protocol. Basically, what we’re doing right now is trying to determine how the new direction applies to Peak 6.”
Habitat questions
After years of political wrangling, the Forest Service finalized the Southern Rockies conservation plan late last year. It’s intended to provide some degree of protection for the rare cats, listed as a threatened species in 2000.
One of the main reasons cited for the listing was the lack of adequate protections for important lynx habitat. The forest plan amendment, applicable to all national forests in the region, aims to provide those protections.
Lynx habitat tends to overlap with ski terrain in places like Vail and Summit County. Just like skiers, the cats favor shady, north-facing slopes with mature stands of spruce and fir.
Last winter, one of the cats was spotted near Francie’s Cabin, north of Breckenridge, with another documented sighting along the edge of a Peak 7 ski trail. Part of the proposed Peak 6 terrain falls into spruce-fir habitat zone considered critical for lynx.
In the past, federal biologists have emphasized maintaining “permeability” at ski areas by making sure there’s enough habitat nearby for the cats to hide during the day and by restricting roads and nighttime activities.
Now, the Forest Service must determine whether those measures meet the new standards of the regional plan.
Field work
“We’re doing field work within the proposed Peak 6 expansion area and around the ski area, as well,” Poirer said.
Teams of biologists have been scouring the area, looking for lynx tracks and trying to figure out if there’s enough food and cover for the cats, he said. The agency also has placed several automated cameras at various places in the forest.
“We’re trying to figure out how much habitat is available in that area, and how Peak 6 affects it. If it does, what do we need to do to mitigate that,” Poirer said.
The Ten-Mile Range may be an important travel route for the cats as they disperse from a core population area in the San Juans to the far corners of the southern Rockies, in search of good denning and foraging habitat.
“One of the big standards in the amendment really focuses on habitat connectivity. We want to make sure we can maintain the connectivity,” Poirer said. “It’s a complex protocol if you’re trying to connect the dots across the range.
“We really need to look at this (plan) and the Peak 6 project and see how they mesh, if they do at all,” Poirer continued. “These are important connectivity areas.”
After the field work is done, the biologists will analyze the data and produce a report that will help the Forest Service and resort figure out how to proceed. Poirer said there’s no deadline for completing the studies.
The agency hasn’t had a conversation with the resort in quite some time about timing for finalizing the environmental studies on the Peak 6 expansion.
“For now, we’re still looking at the crystal ball,” Poirer said. And given the shaky state of capital financing in the current economy, most resorts aren’t exactly chomping at the bit to tackle costly projects right now, he added.
USFS studies lynx habitat around Peak 6 in Breckenridge
New habitat standards for rare cat could affect Breckenridge ski area plan
By Bob Berwyn
summit daily news
BRECKENRIDGE — A new lynx conservation plan could be a factor in whether Breckenridge Ski Resort will be allowed to expand onto Peak 6.
Forest Service officials charged with reviewing the resort’s proposal said they are studying the forest around Peak 6 area to determine if they can make the lynx plan mesh with the ski area’s desire to add new terrain.
The resort has proposed adding several hundred acres of new trails and above-treeline skiing.
Similar studies are under way across the entire eastern half of the White River National Forest, according to biologist Liz Roberts.
Resort officials aren’t sure how the new lynx studies will affect the timing of Peak 6 plan. They hope the Forest Service will complete a draft environmental study this summer.
“It is difficult to predict what this might do to the timing of the project one way or the other,” said Breckenridge Ski Resort spokeswoman Kristen Petitt. “These studies are a normal part of the process that the Forest Service conducts for a project like this.”
The resort is testing some wildlife management systems and has indicated it would be willing to negotiate with the Forest Service, she said.
“We are not aware of any specific lynx activity, but we do believe that we have areas across the mountain that could support lynx habitat connectivity,” Pettit said.
The terrain expansion is slated for an area that’s designated for ski-resort development by the White River National Forest plan. The preliminary version of the plan called for about 450 acres of new terrain served by a single lift. (See the original scoping notice online at www.dillonrangerdistrict.com/projects.htm.)
The new studies could affect the review and approval process, said Roger Poirer, winter sports administrator for the White River National Forest.
“The Southern Rockies lynx amendment supercedes the forest plan,” Poirer said, “We got new direction, and we’re trying to figure out a new protocol. Basically, what we’re doing right now is trying to determine how the new direction applies to Peak 6.”
Habitat questions
After years of political wrangling, the Forest Service finalized the Southern Rockies conservation plan late last year. It’s intended to provide some degree of protection for the rare cats, listed as a threatened species in 2000.
One of the main reasons cited for the listing was the lack of adequate protections for important lynx habitat. The forest plan amendment, applicable to all national forests in the region, aims to provide those protections.
Lynx habitat tends to overlap with ski terrain in places like Vail and Summit County. Just like skiers, the cats favor shady, north-facing slopes with mature stands of spruce and fir.
Last winter, one of the cats was spotted near Francie’s Cabin, north of Breckenridge, with another documented sighting along the edge of a Peak 7 ski trail. Part of the proposed Peak 6 terrain falls into spruce-fir habitat zone considered critical for lynx.
In the past, federal biologists have emphasized maintaining “permeability” at ski areas by making sure there’s enough habitat nearby for the cats to hide during the day and by restricting roads and nighttime activities.
Now, the Forest Service must determine whether those measures meet the new standards of the regional plan.
Field work
“We’re doing field work within the proposed Peak 6 expansion area and around the ski area, as well,” Poirer said.
Teams of biologists have been scouring the area, looking for lynx tracks and trying to figure out if there’s enough food and cover for the cats, he said. The agency also has placed several automated cameras at various places in the forest.
“We’re trying to figure out how much habitat is available in that area, and how Peak 6 affects it. If it does, what do we need to do to mitigate that,” Poirer said.
The Ten-Mile Range may be an important travel route for the cats as they disperse from a core population area in the San Juans to the far corners of the southern Rockies, in search of good denning and foraging habitat.
“One of the big standards in the amendment really focuses on habitat connectivity. We want to make sure we can maintain the connectivity,” Poirer said. “It’s a complex protocol if you’re trying to connect the dots across the range.
“We really need to look at this (plan) and the Peak 6 project and see how they mesh, if they do at all,” Poirer continued. “These are important connectivity areas.”
After the field work is done, the biologists will analyze the data and produce a report that will help the Forest Service and resort figure out how to proceed. Poirer said there’s no deadline for completing the studies.
The agency hasn’t had a conversation with the resort in quite some time about timing for finalizing the environmental studies on the Peak 6 expansion.
“For now, we’re still looking at the crystal ball,” Poirer said. And given the shaky state of capital financing in the current economy, most resorts aren’t exactly chomping at the bit to tackle costly projects right now, he added.
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Posted 26 February 2009 - 09:10 PM
Skier, on Feb 17 2009, 06:37 PM, said:
This year continues to look dismal for lift construction. Here's what's confirmed:
Holiday Valley, NY Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Morningside Express
Sun Valley, ID Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 River Run Gondola
Marmot Basin, AB Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Tranquilizer Express
Roosevelt Island Tram, NY Leitner-Poma Tram Roosevelt Island Tram
Bruce Mound, WI Used Triple
Eaglecrest, AK Used Double Mid Mountain
Sleeping Giant, WY Used Triple
The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Triple Hyak
The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Double Hidden Valley
Also possible is the Timing Flats cabriolet, Orange chair replacement, and/or Kadenwood Gondola on Whistler.
Holiday Valley, NY Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Morningside Express
Sun Valley, ID Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 River Run Gondola
Marmot Basin, AB Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Tranquilizer Express
Roosevelt Island Tram, NY Leitner-Poma Tram Roosevelt Island Tram
Bruce Mound, WI Used Triple
Eaglecrest, AK Used Double Mid Mountain
Sleeping Giant, WY Used Triple
The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Triple Hyak
The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Double Hidden Valley
Also possible is the Timing Flats cabriolet, Orange chair replacement, and/or Kadenwood Gondola on Whistler.
The timing flats lift will be a detach quad, Orange will not be replaced, although we have a quote for a gondola from Creekside to the top of Garbanzo/Orange. Kadenwood is up in the air, but given the economy, I'd say its a no go.
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Posted 26 February 2009 - 10:08 PM
Aussierob, on Feb 26 2009, 09:10 PM, said:
The timing flats lift will be a detach quad, Orange will not be replaced, although we have a quote for a gondola from Creekside to the top of Garbanzo/Orange. Kadenwood is up in the air, but given the economy, I'd say its a no go.
It seems like it would make more sense to just extend the Creekside Gondola instead of putting a system that's right next to it. That would also cost a lot of money to build for the location it would be in.
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Posted 26 February 2009 - 10:29 PM
Yes, but consider that the Creekside Gondola is an older system using outdated parts (grips, terminals, cabins, etc), and by the time it's finished building a new gondola to be compatible with an old gondola, it would be much more expensive than to just build a new one. And also we must take into consideration that it was built by Poma and a new gondola would likely be contracted with Doppelmayr CTEC.
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Posted 27 February 2009 - 01:04 PM
The big reason for adding another lift is to increase capacity out of Creekside. The existing lift is only about 1850 pph so the line ups can be large.
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Posted 27 February 2009 - 01:53 PM
Well that makes 10 confirmed for this summer.
1 Holiday Valley, NY Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Morningside Express
2 Sun Valley, ID Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 River Run Gondola
3 Whistler Blackcomb Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Timing Flats
4 Marmot Basin, AB Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Tranquilizer Express
5 Roosevelt Island Tram, NY Leitner-Poma Tram Roosevelt Island Tram
6 Bruce Mound, WI Used Triple
7 Eaglecrest, AK Used Double Mid Mountain
8 Sleeping Giant, WY Used Triple
9 The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Triple Hyak
10 The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Double Hidden Valley
11 Moonlight Basin, MT Used Double Stagecoach
1 Holiday Valley, NY Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Morningside Express
2 Sun Valley, ID Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 River Run Gondola
3 Whistler Blackcomb Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Timing Flats
4 Marmot Basin, AB Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Tranquilizer Express
5 Roosevelt Island Tram, NY Leitner-Poma Tram Roosevelt Island Tram
6 Bruce Mound, WI Used Triple
7 Eaglecrest, AK Used Double Mid Mountain
8 Sleeping Giant, WY Used Triple
9 The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Triple Hyak
10 The Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Used Double Hidden Valley
11 Moonlight Basin, MT Used Double Stagecoach
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Posted 01 March 2009 - 08:23 PM
I should add Stagecoach at Moonlight Basin to the list since that was not completed last summer.
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