Possible Lifts for Summer 2008
skier691
05 Oct 2008
Andoman, on Oct 5 2008, 05:49 PM, said:
I was just up at boyne mountain (highlands and nubs also) this weekend, and it doesn't look like they've done much on the new quad lift. I didn't see too much going on. The new chairs where in the parking lot but I didn't see any new towers installed yet? I asked ond of the guys there if the lift was going to be ready this winter and his reply was "define winter, I could imagine it possibly being completed by the end of march 2009." I also noticed the master plan in the condo sales office (I'm thinking about getting a condo at highlands 
) indicated that the meadows was supposed to be a HS six pack with another HS six pack over off disciples. They didn't give dates but I thought it was interesting.
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) indicated that the meadows was supposed to be a HS six pack with another HS six pack over off disciples. They didn't give dates but I thought it was interesting. ando
They ordered the lift late. Besides the towers, bullwheels, and motor room, the lifts there.
The conveyor and loading gates are currently being installed. They have the talent there to finish, if they get parts. I could see a HS on Disciples, because of relative chair length and company-owned real estate developments there.
skier691
10 Oct 2008
On the Lutsen web site, they are advertising the 'new' triple chair. No picts. They state that it will run from the daylodge to the top of Eagle. That will make it nice for doing laps on the front side, now that the t-bar has been gone for a while. On a side note, they are reopening the 'Plunge'. Its narrow and steep(a big rock), for about 100 ft, followed by a mile catwalk.
MNSkier
10 Oct 2008
skier691, on Oct 10 2008, 01:44 PM, said:
On the Lutsen web site, they are advertising the 'new' triple chair. No picts. They state that it will run from the daylodge to the top of Eagle. That will make it nice for doing laps on the front side, now that the t-bar has been gone for a while. On a side note, they are reopening the 'Plunge'. Its narrow and steep(a big rock), for about 100 ft, followed by a mile catwalk.
I have not seen it for myself but others have stated that the concrete is poured and the towers are in place or are being placed. Sounds like they are on track to open it this winter.
Regarding the plunge, Never had the opertunity to ski it in the winter but I have hiked it in the summer and I always thought it was a 98% grade that was more like 250-300 feet long.
Lift Kid
10 Oct 2008
The Plunge is supposed to open from what I have heard. From what I've been told, they purchased a PB300W winch cat and plan on grooming that run.
Peter
10 Oct 2008
The new lift at Lutsen is the former Naked Lady lift from Snowmass.
Lift Kid
10 Oct 2008
Correct. The name will be staying with it. Apparently, the Lutsen maint. department felt it was bad luck, just like with ships, to change its name.
RibStaThiok
10 Oct 2008
I am glad to hear that Naked Lady will live on! Will it be the same length as it was at Snowmass? That was one LONG ride up! About 15 min if I remember correctly.
skier2
10 Oct 2008
Lift Kid, on Oct 10 2008, 05:12 PM, said:
Correct. The name will be staying with it. Apparently, the Lutsen maint. department felt it was bad luck, just like with ships, to change its name.
I heard that actually it was the Aspen crew that had said it was bad luck, and that the Lutsen crew agreed to keep the name because of that.But yeah, the Plunge is just wicked...I can see the ski patrol waiting at the bottom already (standing out of the way, of course ;) ). Waiting on lift pics...
Kicking Horse
10 Oct 2008
RibStaThio, on Oct 10 2008, 06:33 PM, said:
I am glad to hear that Naked Lady will live on! Will it be the same length as it was at Snowmass? That was one LONG ride up! About 15 min if I remember correctly.
No the Naked Lady will be shorten.
Lift Dinosaur
11 Oct 2008
RibStaThio, on Oct 10 2008, 06:33 PM, said:
I am glad to hear that Naked Lady will live on! Will it be the same length as it was at Snowmass? That was one LONG ride up! About 15 min if I remember correctly.
Talking with the LM Boss from Lutsen, he said their plan is to eventually make 2 triples out of it. They have enough towers, chairs and cable. They would eventually buy new drive and return for the second install.
Dino
RibStaThiok
11 Oct 2008
Hmm two Naked Lady lifts.. not bad. Naked Lady, and Naked Sister? <grin>
They are getting a very good lift. Hope she lives on for many years to come.
They are getting a very good lift. Hope she lives on for many years to come.
Lift Kid
12 Oct 2008
Lift Dinosaur, on Oct 11 2008, 10:42 AM, said:
Talking with the LM Boss from Lutsen, he said their plan is to eventually make 2 triples out of it. They have enough towers, chairs and cable. They would eventually buy new drive and return for the second install.
Dino
That actually seems like a great idea. I bet it is a lot more affordable than buying two used lifts and scrapping a big usable part of them.
yosemitemtb
09 Nov 2008
Skier, on Sep 5 2008, 09:06 AM, said:
It looks like the Alyeska lift is going to be a fixed grip quad. Here is an updated list, up to 49 now.
1 Alyeska, AK Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Chair 3
2 Badger Pass, CA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Eagle
3 Bear Creek, PA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad A
4 Boreal, CA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Castle Peak
5 Boyne Mountain, MI Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Meadows
6 Heavenly, CA Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Galaxy Express
7 Hidden Valley, PA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad
8 Jackson Hole, WY Doppelmayr CTEC 100 Passenger Tram Tram
9 Keystone, CO Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 River Run Gondola
12 Mont Saint Saveur, PQ Doppelmayr CTEC Quad
13 Mont Tremblant, PQ Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 Connection
14 Mt. Baker, WA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Chair 1
15 Northstar-at-Tahoe, CA Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Martis Camp Express
16 Park City, UT Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Crescent Express
17 Saddleback, ME Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Kennebago
18 Ski Beech, NC Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Oz
19 Snow Valley Ski Club, AB Doppelmayr CTEC Pulse Quad
20 Snowbasin, UT Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Little Cat Express
21 Solitude, UT Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Apex Express
22 Solitude, UT Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Moonbeam Express
23 Sunday River, ME Doppelmayr CTEC Chondola 4/6 Lift 7
24 The Canyons, UT Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 Frostwood
25 The Canyons, UT Doppelmayr CTEC Quad
26 Welch Village, MN Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Back Bowls
27 Whistler Blackcomb, BC Doppelmayr CTEC Tri Cable Gondola Peak to Peak
28 Whistler Blackcomb, BC Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 Kadenwood
29 Whiteface, NY Doppelmayr CTEC Triple Lookout Mountain
30 Batawa Ski Club, ON Leitner-Poma Quad
31 Gore Mountain, NY Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Burnt Ridge Express
32 Grouse Mountain, BC Leitner-Poma Quad Courtesy
33 Grouse Mountain, BC Leitner-Poma Quad Peak Chair
34 Killington, VT Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Skye Peak Express
35 Lake Louise, AB Leitner-Poma Quad Ptarmigan
36 Revelstoke, BC Leitner-Poma Gondola 8 Lower Gondola
37 Revelstoke, BC Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad North Bowl Express
38 Snowmass, CO Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Sheer Bliss
39 Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Silver Fir Express
40 Telluride, CO Leitner-Poma Quad Revelation
41 Winter Park, CO Leitner-Poma Cabriolet Village
42 Bridger Bowl, MT Used Double Slushman's
10 Kirkwood, CA Used Platter Covered Wagon
11 Kirkwood, CA Used Platter Lookout Vista
43 Lutsen Mountains, MN Used Triple
44 Mohawk Mountain Used Triple Summit
45 Poley Mountain, NB Used Triple
46 Seven Oaks, IA Used Triple Valley View
47 Sleeping Giant, WY Used Triple
48 Whitetail, PA Used Double Terrain Park
49 Nub's Nob, MI Used Superior Triple Gray
There are more Alyeska info and pictures here: http://alyeskalifties.blogspot.com/
1 Alyeska, AK Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Chair 3
2 Badger Pass, CA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Eagle
3 Bear Creek, PA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad A
4 Boreal, CA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Castle Peak
5 Boyne Mountain, MI Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Meadows
6 Heavenly, CA Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Galaxy Express
7 Hidden Valley, PA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad
8 Jackson Hole, WY Doppelmayr CTEC 100 Passenger Tram Tram
9 Keystone, CO Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 River Run Gondola
12 Mont Saint Saveur, PQ Doppelmayr CTEC Quad
13 Mont Tremblant, PQ Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 Connection
14 Mt. Baker, WA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Chair 1
15 Northstar-at-Tahoe, CA Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Martis Camp Express
16 Park City, UT Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Crescent Express
17 Saddleback, ME Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Kennebago
18 Ski Beech, NC Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Oz
19 Snow Valley Ski Club, AB Doppelmayr CTEC Pulse Quad
20 Snowbasin, UT Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Little Cat Express
21 Solitude, UT Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Apex Express
22 Solitude, UT Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Moonbeam Express
23 Sunday River, ME Doppelmayr CTEC Chondola 4/6 Lift 7
24 The Canyons, UT Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 Frostwood
25 The Canyons, UT Doppelmayr CTEC Quad
26 Welch Village, MN Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Back Bowls
27 Whistler Blackcomb, BC Doppelmayr CTEC Tri Cable Gondola Peak to Peak
28 Whistler Blackcomb, BC Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 Kadenwood
29 Whiteface, NY Doppelmayr CTEC Triple Lookout Mountain
30 Batawa Ski Club, ON Leitner-Poma Quad
31 Gore Mountain, NY Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Burnt Ridge Express
32 Grouse Mountain, BC Leitner-Poma Quad Courtesy
33 Grouse Mountain, BC Leitner-Poma Quad Peak Chair
34 Killington, VT Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Skye Peak Express
35 Lake Louise, AB Leitner-Poma Quad Ptarmigan
36 Revelstoke, BC Leitner-Poma Gondola 8 Lower Gondola
37 Revelstoke, BC Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad North Bowl Express
38 Snowmass, CO Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Sheer Bliss
39 Summit at Snoqualmie, WA Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Silver Fir Express
40 Telluride, CO Leitner-Poma Quad Revelation
41 Winter Park, CO Leitner-Poma Cabriolet Village
42 Bridger Bowl, MT Used Double Slushman's
10 Kirkwood, CA Used Platter Covered Wagon
11 Kirkwood, CA Used Platter Lookout Vista
43 Lutsen Mountains, MN Used Triple
44 Mohawk Mountain Used Triple Summit
45 Poley Mountain, NB Used Triple
46 Seven Oaks, IA Used Triple Valley View
47 Sleeping Giant, WY Used Triple
48 Whitetail, PA Used Double Terrain Park
49 Nub's Nob, MI Used Superior Triple Gray
There are more Alyeska info and pictures here: http://alyeskalifties.blogspot.com/
Only in the interest of accuracy, #2 on the list, the Eagle Chair at Badger Pass is a triple, not a quad. :)
SkiBachelor
09 Nov 2008
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Only in the interest of accuracy, #2 on the list, the Eagle Chair at Badger Pass is a triple, not a quad. :)
Wasn't this lift planned to be a quad?
Peter
09 Nov 2008
On the topic of new lifts for this year, I'm noticing some interesting things from Doppelmayr CTEC this year. There continues to be a complicated mix of terminal models being built.
Detachable Models:
Uni-GS - 3 Lifts (Park City and 2@Solitude)
Uni-G - 4 Lifts (Tremblant, Snowbasin, Sunday River, and I'm assuming The Canyons)
Uni-G Viper - 1 Lift (Keystone)
Fixed Grip Models
Uni-Star - 5 Lifts (Hidden Valley, Alyeska, Boyne Mountain, Mount Baker, and Saddleback)
Galaxy III - 2 Lifts (Snow Valley and Whiteface. This is the model that is the successor to the Galaxy II, I don't know what it is actually called but it is basically just the Uni-Star with tension.)
Sprint - 3 Lifts (Boreal, Bear Creek, and Meadowlands Xanadu)
Echo - 1 Lift (Welch Village)
Uni-G Fixed - 1 Lift (Mont Saint Sauveur. I'm not sure the actual name of this model, it is the fixed drive terminal with the Uni-G cladding.)
I still haven't seen pictures of The Canyons, Ski Beech, or Badger Pass so they are not included in the above list.
As for chairs, it appears to be about a 5 to 1 ratio of EJ chairs to "Vail" chairs this year so far. I thought the EJ ones were going to be discontinued in 2003?
Detachable Models:
Uni-GS - 3 Lifts (Park City and 2@Solitude)
Uni-G - 4 Lifts (Tremblant, Snowbasin, Sunday River, and I'm assuming The Canyons)
Uni-G Viper - 1 Lift (Keystone)
Fixed Grip Models
Uni-Star - 5 Lifts (Hidden Valley, Alyeska, Boyne Mountain, Mount Baker, and Saddleback)
Galaxy III - 2 Lifts (Snow Valley and Whiteface. This is the model that is the successor to the Galaxy II, I don't know what it is actually called but it is basically just the Uni-Star with tension.)
Sprint - 3 Lifts (Boreal, Bear Creek, and Meadowlands Xanadu)
Echo - 1 Lift (Welch Village)
Uni-G Fixed - 1 Lift (Mont Saint Sauveur. I'm not sure the actual name of this model, it is the fixed drive terminal with the Uni-G cladding.)
I still haven't seen pictures of The Canyons, Ski Beech, or Badger Pass so they are not included in the above list.
As for chairs, it appears to be about a 5 to 1 ratio of EJ chairs to "Vail" chairs this year so far. I thought the EJ ones were going to be discontinued in 2003?
Andoman
09 Nov 2008
Has anyone seen what the new Echo Terminals are going to look like?
yosemitemtb
09 Nov 2008
SkiBachelor, on Nov 9 2008, 04:15 PM, said:
Wasn't this lift planned to be a quad?
Back when the Yan was put in, there was the option of hanging quad chairs on it but it never happened. The new lift being put in right now is a triple and the idea of a quad was considered but never seriously.
yosemitemtb
09 Nov 2008
Skier, on Nov 9 2008, 05:33 PM, said:
Uni-G cladding.)
I still haven't seen pictures of The Canyons, Ski Beech, or Badger Pass so they are not included in the above list.
I still haven't seen pictures of The Canyons, Ski Beech, or Badger Pass so they are not included in the above list.
Badger's bottom terminal (drive) is going to be a Galaxy motor room on a Yan height adjustable framework and the return will be mounted on the Yan mast. Here's a pic of the Yan motor room being dismantled, the new unit will ride on a framework attached just inside the big tubes that say "Eagle".
This post has been edited by yosemitemtb: 09 November 2008 - 09:45 PM
SkiBachelor
09 Nov 2008
What's the reason on why the Eagle lift is being replaced with another triple?
The lift doesn't seem that old if it's being replaced by one of the same capacity.
The lift doesn't seem that old if it's being replaced by one of the same capacity.
yosemitemtb
09 Nov 2008
Multiple issues with carriers, grips and aluminum sheave trains both with our lift and with lifts at other areas. To keep the Yan in service, we were looking at major upgrades and it seems the ski lift industry doesn't want to assume the liability it would take to retrofit these lifts anymore. We are reusing the standing steel, the Yan towers are getting new caps and a much different profile, one tower is being lowered about 17'.
